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    Congrats, I'd trade my colt for a righteous k98 any day of the week !

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    Again a very nice find. Maybe a member here who has done it before would be willing to strip the shellack for you if that's what you wanted. Or at least walk you through it. If not, just enjoy it for what it is! Worse things could have been done to it. You have a rifle that many advanced 98 collectors have not been lucky enough to find!
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    Acetone and paper towels will lift that shellac right off. You can get a million opinions on what to do next, but I wouldn't use anything but a few drops of hand-rubbed BLO.

    They're still making Colts, so don't worry about that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regis Rex View Post
    I wouldn't use anything but a few drops of hand-rubbed BLO.
    Some may disagree, but BLO is a bad idea IMO. Modern BLO has many driers and other chemical additives and will cure into a very hard polymer that cannot be removed. After removing the shellac, I would wipe it down with Howard's first and go from there. I've been wanting to try some Natural (not Modern!) Danish oil, but have not had a chance.

    Doing nothing to the stock is also an option. The wood is the most important part of the rifle, so screw that up and a lot of the value is gone.

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    The only reason I would want to remove the shellac is to see if I could see enough of the serial number on the heel to see if it matches the rifle. Then again, I also wouldn't mind for it to look as it should. I'm not in a big rush to do anything right now. Down the road I can see me either trying my hand at it, or having someone reputable gain some of my money and remove the shellac for me.
    Last edited by RazorBurn; 02-15-2013 at 12:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanE View Post
    Some may disagree, but BLO is a bad idea IMO. Modern BLO has many driers and other chemical additives and will cure into a very hard polymer that cannot be removed. After removing the shellac, I would wipe it down with Howard's first and go from there. I've been wanting to try some Natural (not Modern!) Danish oil, but have not had a chance.

    Doing nothing to the stock is also an option. The wood is the most important part of the rifle, so screw that up and a lot of the value is gone.
    Normally when I wipe down my other milsurp rifles I just use plain old lemon oil. I've been using it for years on my guitar fretboards. There's an ongoing debate that never ends on the guitar forums about which is best: lemon oil, tung oil or BLO. I'm sure it's the same with rifles too.

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    Did a detail strip and thorough cleaning tonight. The wood definitely has shellac or some kind of varnish on it. Once I got down to cleaning it, and taking my time I noticed there were quite a few spots and small trails of shellac here and there on the receiver, in the trigger housing, and on some of the other metal parts. I cleaned the shellac off the area on the heel of the stock where the serial number is stamped, and I can definitely make out the last two digits of 7 and 8 so I'm pretty sure the stock is matching. Stripped down the bolt and man was it filthy. I honestly think I cleaned some residue of Europe out of it. :biggrin: Firing pin number matches too.

    I guess it's time for me to figure out the best way to remove that shellac without harming the finish and wood underneath. I've had pointers from several people. Looks like I'm going to start with bronze wool. I may use a mild stripper like Citristrip. One of the people I've been speaking to has always given me solid advice. Several people on Gunboards and this forum have said the finish isn't original and to strip it too. Most recommended acetone. I kinda leery to use acetone as I don't want to screw the pooch right now, so I'm going to start small.

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    Razor, NO ABRASIVES! No abrasives what so ever. Shellac will peel off, varnish will strip off but use no abrasives on the stock. You've listened to me since this all started at the Mosin site, trust me here, no abrasives.
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    The stock should have a serial number stamped internally in the barrel channel. Same goes for the handguard.

    I would stick to acetone to soften the shellac. Chemical strippers like citristrip can affect the wood in a very negative way. If the acetone fails you, members will have some other suggestions. DO NOT use bronze wool on the wood. A soft toothbrush and cloth towel is enough to do the job.

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    Absolutely NO abrasives, bronze wool, etc... Let the solvent or stripper do the work. A soft toothbrush and some old towels is all you need.
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