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    I posted this rifle some time ago on another board. It is an ar43, MO assembeled. A very crisp rifle though there is some patina from poor storage. The serial number on the reciever is: 6680n the bolt however is clearly marked 6680a. Ordinarily I would just declare bolt M/M and be done with it but a close examination with a loop shows a broken bunter that stamped the last number "0" on the bolt, trigger, & ejector box housing is a pefect match. The barrel has been "scrubed" of any manufacture codes, but there is a wa26 which has been struck into the barrel after the barrel codes were belt sanded off. There is a poorly stuck"0" at the 6 o'clock position on the barrel shoulder, the same size as an "02" rebarrel marking,but nothing else. Clearly a rebarrel/rebuild, but when. Bolt has small gas holes. Buttstock and hand gauard are numbered in the channel.Intersting k98. JH
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    That is odd. Can you post a photo of the serial on the receiver?

    It's well known that Mauser finished ar receivers. This one has serial numbering style of an ar43, not a byf43 (which I would expect).

    Are you saying the barrel has NO markings either?
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    Yes it is odd. It appears there were normal makings (faint) but were sanded or polished off. The wa26 is clearly struck over the sanded area. Different. JH
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    Well, I can tell you this. The "n" block of Mauser appears to be a catch all block- anything left laying around that wasn't completed in the previous blocks was assembled in that block.

    So, your barreled action was in Mausers inventory in late 43 (possibly sent as is to Mauser for assembly?). So, the n block is applied to the receiver.

    These things weren't built sequentially. From what we can tell, the factory would be working on as many as 3 letter blocks of production at one time, so the n was mistaken for an a and the bolt got the a suffix. I have a late byf44 L block with an i block bolt. Simple human error.
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    very nice rifle!! Yes, it looks like a M.B. made barreled rec.. Assembled in late 44/ early 45... It has no
    e/26 on the right side which is odd...So maybe it failed some quality inspection.. The 'n' block is a very
    tough block to find...Consider you're self lucky to have found this rifle..It's hard to explain to a novice that when selling an ar/43 that is a 45 dated rifle..And it's valuable. More so than most. Great find!!

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    Very interesting rifle Jim! Its nice to see these oddballs posted and discussed....

    These can be two edged swords...if you are buying, because its an oddball many times you can pick them up relatively cheap, as often the seller does not know its "correct".

    Of course if you know what it is, and are looking to sell, sometimes its hard to get what its worth since most people will think its "wrong"

    Of course if you are like me and rarely if ever sell any 98k's then you don't have to worry about the latter!

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    Neat rifle, pic stickied. Do we know or have strong reason to believe these were '45 date or simply recycled at the end of a production run, such as the end of 1943? Thanks for posting it Haak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hambone View Post
    Neat rifle, pic stickied. Do we know or have strong reason to believe these were '45 date or simply recycled at the end of a production run, such as the end of 1943? Thanks for posting it Haak.
    well, going off the newest k98 book out there..I thought it said 'n' block rifles were assembled in late december into january of 45.. I could be wrong..Or maybe it was the 'o' block..I'll have to look..Anyway, it's a base for an ongoing disscussion..:baby:

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    A couple more of the bolt. Sorry for bad pics. JH
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    Quote Originally Posted by pzjgr View Post
    Very interesting rifle Jim! Its nice to see these oddballs posted and discussed....

    These can be two edged swords...if you are buying, because its an oddball many times you can pick them up relatively cheap, as often the seller does not know its "correct".

    Of course if you know what it is, and are looking to sell, sometimes its hard to get what its worth since most people will think its "wrong"

    Of course if you are like me and rarely if ever sell any 98k's then you don't have to worry about the latter!
    Guns come in here............they seldom go out.JH

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