Peter, how do you feel about these? Here is mine, purchased from a dealer in Holland. All of them share similar characteristics: Heer, overpainted in this pattern, original liners, inside rim painted in the green, some show that they were camo overpainted over whitewash. Some have German names and ranks in the liners (the subject M.42) and some with German names in the rims, but exposed. Some have been collector diddled and cleaned, a couple with Heer decals exposed, which was a stupid collector trick of the 80s and early 90s. They are obviously not "fakes". They are unit done camos but the issue is whether they were done postwar. More than a few are attributable to Holland area of operations. Curiously, all, or most of them, show spatters of a grey type paint, like they were stored in an area that was being painted grey. You can see it on mine.