MichaelWC
Senior Member
Firearm research of the Imperial German colonial and Overseas Forces.
Bayonets and unit disc markings
Southwest Africa:
KS = Kaiserliche Schutztruppe
K.S. (no) = Kaiserliche Schutztruppe DSWA
L.P. (no.) = Landespolizei DSWA
K.G.P. (no.)=Kaiserliches Gouvernement Polizei and seem to be used in 1905-07.
(no.) F.R.E. (no.) =Feld Regiment Ersatz
The Schutztruppe were only temporarily formed into regimental units during the Herero Rebellion.
(no.) F.R. (no.) =Feld-Regiment
The Schutztruppe were only temporarily formed into regimental units during the Herero Rebellion.
F.P. (no.) Fuhrpark-Kolonne of the Schutztruppe of South West Africa.
Kamerun:
Sch. K.(no.)= Kamerun
S.K. (no.)= Schutztruppe Kamerun
P.T.K. (no.) = Polizeitruppe Kamerun
East Africa:
Sch. D.O.A (no.) = Deutsch Ost-Afrika
Togo:
P.T. (no.) = Polizeitruppe Togo (no Schutztruppe in Togo, just police)
Other Colonial markings:
F.K. = Feld Kompagnie (14 in DOA, 9 in DSWA, 12 in Kamerun)
Sch. A. (no.) = Schutzpolizei Anhalt-Scheinwerfer-Abteilung. there were 2 in DSWA.
Sch. PI. (no.)= Schießplatz training unit.
S.F. (no.)= Samoan Polizeitruppe and Fita-Fita
P. (no.) Simpler mark for Kamerun or Togo Polizeitruppe.
Seabataillon
I. S.B.R. (no.)= I. Seebataillon) was based at Kiel
Il. S.B.R. (no.)= II. Seebataillon) at Wilhelmshaven.
Ill. S.B.R. (no.)= III. Seebataillon) was formed in Tsingtao in China in 1898 and permanently based there, with small staff base at Cuxhaven.
O.M.D.(no.) = Ostasiatische Marine Detachmen. Marine Detachment of Marine Infantry troops based in Peking and Tientsin from 1909 to 1914.
Ostasiatische Expeditionscorps or Imperial East Asian expedition corp
(no.)O.R.(no.)= East Asian expedition corp
No.)O.J.(no.)= Ostasiatische Jäger company
O.F.A.(no.)= Ostasiatische Feld-Artillerie
O.P.( no.)= Ostasiatische Pionier
O.E.(no.)= Oberkommando des Ostasiatischen Expeditionkorps or it may be Ostasiatische Eisenbahn Batallion.
South African Union Defence Force or UDF (post 1912) marks on Schutztruppegewehr 98's.
Arrow in U = service
Diamond in U = sold out of service.
Firearms used by the Schutztruppe in the African colonies.
Mauser Jägerbüchse 1871:
1875/ÖWG/840c/Sch.D.O.A.430
1.R.I.2.81. (This Jägerbüchse was used by the Schutztruppe of German East Africa.) Old unit mark has been ex-out.
1875/ÖWG/2687f/Sch.K (This Jägerbüchse was also used by the Schutztruppe of Kamerun. This rifle is part of a private collection in Germany)
1875/ÖWG/4084E/Sch.D.O.A.1587 (1909 or later. This Jägerbüchse was also used by the Schutztruppe of German East Africa.)
1875/ÖWG/7356J/E.16.91 and with Colonial Eagle and “S”.
1875/ÖWG/?/Sch.D.O.A. (This Jägerbüchse was used by the Schutztruppe of German East Africa.)
*NOTE: Beginning in 1909 the Spandau arsenal altered numbers of JB71s for colonial service by adding an ejector. JB71s issued to colonial units before 1909 had no ejector.
Gew 88 and Kar 88 used by the Schutztruppe.
?/?/873/K.S. 2470. S (Note: this Gew 88 has 873 on the receiver and has a odd unit disc on the side of the stock. Receiver has been scrubbed. It was found in Namibia in the late 80's or early 90's.) This rifle is part of the T. Dawes collection in South Africa.
1890/V.C.Schilling and Suhl/4760/B.M.S.7
1892/V.C.Schilling and Suhl/?812/?
Art Kar 98, Kav Kar 98, Kar.98 1st variant, Kar.98 2nd model and Kar98a of the Schutztruppe:
1901 Erfurt
1901/Erfurt/1645/F.P.3.72 (Fahrpark-Kolonne Nr,3, Waffe Nr.72), indicates this carbine could have seen service with the Kaiserliche Schutztruppe in South-West Africa against the Hereros and Hottentotten, when they rebelled against the German Colonial Troops. First pattern of carbine.
1901/Erfurt/2499/? (This carbine is marked Art. Kar.98 for artillery on the side rail.)
1904 Erfurt
1904/Erfurt/596/? Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/2107/3.F.P.1.32 (note: F.P.1.32 Fahrpark-Kolonne Nr.1 waffe Nr. 32 (Second pattern of carbine.)
1904/Erfurt/3155/? Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/5564/? Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/6806/? Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1905 Erfurt
1905/Erfurt/8352/5.F.P.4.51 (note: 5.F.P.4.51 Fahrpark-Kolonne Nr.4 waffe Nr. 51. Kar.98 2nd model of carbine. This carbine is part of the T. Dawes collection in South Africa.
Kar.98a
1912 Erfurt
1912/Erfurt/2470/Sch.K.8.35 Kamerun,
8th Feldkompagnie, weapon number 35.
1912/Erfurt/4306/Sch.K.12.91 Kamerun,
12th Feldkompagnie, weapon number 91.
1912 Danzig
1912/Danzig/3933/Sch.D.O.A.487 (This rifle is in private hands in Australia. This carbine was also used by the Schutztruppe of German East Africa.)
1912/Danzig/?/SCH.D.O.A.1080 (This carbine was also used by the Schutztruppe of German East Africa.)
The Kar98a became the standard issue service rifle in the DOA, Kamerun and Togo by 1913. NCOs were first to get it. They started the re-equipment of Askaris with it, which was still in progress by 1914. Askaris in 5 companies (1., 4., 8., 10. and 13. FK) were equipped with it by start of war.
Schutztruppengewehr 1898 used by the Kaiserliche Schutztruppe:
Mauser Oberndorf am Neckar
1899/WMO/6735/K.S.10228.S (very few details about this rifle. It is unknown if stock is original to the receiver.)
Spandau 1900
1900/Spandau/148d/K.S. 2333. S This rifle is past of the T. Dawes collection in South Africa.
1900/Spandau/3534c/K.S. 190. S
1900/Spandau/4977c/K.S.9043.S This rifle is also marked 2.F.R.7.81
1900/Spandau/5750c/K.S.9671
1900/Spandau/6507/K.S.10784 (Part of MWC collection)
1900/Spandau/6660c/K.S.2706 .S (This rifle is also marked. L.P.638)
1900/Spandau/7267c/K.S.226.S (This rifle is has been spotirized. Forward end of the stock has been cut down all the way to the second Barrel ban spring. Rifle is in a private collection in South Africa.)
1900/Spandau/7467i/K.S.9043
1900/Spandau/7478b/K.S. (KCN report - SA collection, stated "KS")
1900/Spandau/8559c/K.S.10834. (In Private collection in Germany)
1900/Spandau/9037c/K.S. 2030. S
1900/Spandau/9450c/K.S.1623.S (Rifle in a South African collection. (UDF marked)
1900/Spandau/?/K.S.10279
1900/Spandau/?/K.S.11194(This rifle is also marked. L.P.424)
1900/Spandau/?/K.S. also UDF marked.
(Gew 98 was found in South African auction house "ClassicArms" Catalog as item number F016) auction of 5/7/2022
1900/Spandau/?/K.S. (Gew 98 was found in South African auction house "ClassicArms" Catalog as item number F030) auction of 3/23/2019
Spandau 1901
1901/Spandau/168/K.S.9788.S (eGun poor pictures.)
1901/Spandau/1473/? (report - stated KS)
1901/Spandau/1575/K.S. 8274. S
1901/Spandau/1744/K.S.1138. S(Two UDF marks above the serial number. One is (Arrow in U = service) the other is (Diamond in U = sold out of service.)
1901/Spandau/B2004B/K.S.1755. S (Serial number is not original. Serial number is not a new registration number. UDF numbers usually have U as the start perfix. Also this rifles barrel and action have been reblued.)
1901/Spandau/2346/ K.S.11260
1901/Spandau/2538/K.S.
1901/Spandau/2692/K.S.792.S
1901/Spandau/2719/? (This rifle is a barreled Schutztruppegewehr 98 action but in a normal stock. This rifle also doesn't have a unit dice. Very much a mix master rifle. Bolt doesn't match to rest of the rifle. WR 34122 on side of the receiver stands for weapons register. Each firearm in SA is registered but if there is a duplication then a WR number is given for that rifle. The serial number 2719 isn't German. The standard Gewehr 1898 stock has a 1920 property proof mark on it.) Rifles owner is J. Hoffman
1901/Spandau/3670/K.S.11220. Rifle resides in a private collection in Namibia.
1901/Spandau/4141/K.S. (KCN report - SA collection)
1901/Spandau/4839/K.S.1378.S "Underneath the bolt handle in the bolt cut out there is a "N within D"
1901/Spandau/5115/K.S.1187.S (this rifle has a South African Union Defence Force or UDF marked. Mark is diamond in U = sold out of service on the receiver.) Rifle is privately owned by L. Hildago.
1901/Spandau/5117a /K.S. 2539.S (report - SA collection)
1901/Spandau/5703/K.S.
1901/Spandau/5881a/K.S.2869.S
1901/Spandau/5895/ No K.S. marking
1901/Spandau/5922a/KS (KCN report - SA collection)
1901/Spandau/6693/K.S.3904.S (In Private collection in Germany) (WR 35630 on side of the receiver stands for weapons register. Each firearm in SA is registered but if there is a duplication then a WR number is given for that rifle.)
1901/Spandau/6958/K.S.4061.S (UDF marked)
1901/Spandau/7028/K.S.1138
1901/Spandau/7083/KS (CB report)
1901/Spandau /7372/K.S.4349.S (SA collection)
1901/Spandau/?/K.S.2748
1901/Spandau/?/K.S.2177.S (serial unknown)
1901/Spandau/?/? (serial unknown & unknown K.S. marking.)
Spandau 1903
1903/Spandau/1210a/? (KCN report - SA collection)
Spandau 1914
1914/Spandau/10/? ( In 1914 some new Schutztruppegewehr 1898 were manufactured with bolt handles of the cyclist rifle. It is not known how many of these rifles were manufactured or if any made there way to the African colonies.)
Erfurt 1902
1902/Erfurt/1133/K.S.4540 (UDF marked)
1902/Erfurt/9925e/K.S.9881
Erfurt 1903
1903/Erfurt/1144f/K.S.5682.S
1903/Erfurt/?/K.S.5072.S (UDF marked)
Firearms of the Landespolizei and Polizeitruppe.
Mauser Gewehr 1871:
1875/Spandau/2896/ This rifle is marked ORTSPolizeibehörde Windhoek 2166.
Rack or issue number is 2166.
Mauser Jägerbüchse 1871:
1877/Danzig/4329/Sch.K.2107 "P. ERDELT/NEUSTADT" used by the Polizeitruppe of Kamerun.
1880/Danzig/2343/This rifle is marked "ORTSPolizeibehörde Bethanien 359" (This would indicate that it was used by a Kaiserliches Gouvernement Polizei unit at Bethanien in SouthWest Africa, prior to the formation of the Landespolizei in 1905. 359 would be the weapon issue number.)
1881/Danzig/9564/? (Rifle has issue number of 2104. The issue number is flanked on both sides with the Imperial Colonial eagle and a letter "S". The "S" proof could stand for Spitzkoppe but we will never know.
?/ÖWG/4294/10.D.4.97 (This rifle was 1871 Jägerbüchse that been sporterized. It is also marked "ORTSPolizeibehörde Warmbad 160" for Southwest African Police.)
NOTE: Beginning in 1909 Spandau arsenal altered numbers of JB71s for colonial service by adding an ejector. JB71s issued to colonial units before 1909 had no ejector.
Gew 88 and Kar 88 used by the Landespolizei and Polizeitruppe.
1893/Erfurt/8525q/? (This carbine was captured by the British in 1914 in the German colony of Togo. This carbine was used by the Togo Polizeitruppe. The carbine is now on display in the British Imperial war museum.)
Art Kar 98, Kav Kar 98, Kar.98 1st variant, Kar.98 2nd model and Kar98a of the Landespolizei and Polizeitruppe:
1901 Erfurt
1901/Erfurt/2043/marked in the wood “Ortspolizeibehorde Gibeon 899”, and F.T.A 50 on the butt disc. (Note: This carbine is marked Kav. Kar 98 on the side rail.) C. Amm collection.
1904 Erfurt
1904/Erfurt/4411/K.G.P. 150 on the buttplate extension. C. Amm collection.
1904/Erfurt/4540/K.G.P.46.
(note: K.G.P. stands for Kaiserliches Gouvernement Polizei and seem to be used in 1905-07.) Second pattern of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/5101/K.G.P. 139 Kaiserliches Gouvernement Polizei and seem to be used in 1905-07. (Ortspolitzie Windhuk & Ortspolitzie Bethanien.) Second pattern of carbine. This carbine is past of the T. Dawes collection in South Africa.
1904/Erfurt/6800/ Urispolizei Behörde Luderitzbucht No.258 on the butt plate. Unit mark is "District Police Property" Very common before the formation of the Landespolizei in 1907. Also there is L 258 above the Erfurt on the crest. Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/6913/K.G.P.47. Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/7141/K.G.P.202. Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
Schutztruppegewehr 98 of the Landespolizei and Polizeitruppe:
1900 Spandau
1900/Spandau/4262c/L.P.200 (Part of MWC collection)
1900/Spandau/4524c/L.P.XXX (This rifle was used by the UDF. With three UDF proof marks of the receiver. With a WR number of WR43482 on the left side of receiver and barrel. Original serial numbers and inventory serial number has been X out.
1900/Spandau/4640/L.P.273 (This rifle has a South American Mauser replacement stock most likely from a Brazilian 1908. Also removed and replaced original disc with a replacement unit disc marked. K.S.10797 .S )
1900/Spandau/6174c/L.P.561 (UDF marked)
1900/Spandau/6212/L.P.569 (This Gew 98 was used by Karl Füchsel (1883-1960) Polizeisergeant Füchsel used: S. Gewehr Nr. LP 569 (Fabrik Nr 6212, Spandau 1900);
July, 1 1912)
1900/Spandau/6660c/L.P.638 (This rifle is also marked. K.S.2706 .S)
1900/Spandau/7530c/L.P.750
LP 750 with the numbers erased (made unrecognizable) and below the crown over SPANDAU and 1900. On the left side: military proof of heraldic eagles linearly next to it the S.No. 7530 c and above it two ownership stamps of the ZAR (South African Republic) and also mark 98
1900/Spandau/7538/L.P.xxx (suffix unknown-numbers x'd out. This rifle is also UDF marked)
1900/Spandau/?/L.P.424 (This rifle is also marked. K.S.11194)
East Asian Force's:
1899/ Erfurt/5390/4.O.R.9.188
1900/ Spandau/7357a/1.O.R.4.116
1900/Spandau/8074a/1.O.J.R.2.55
1st East Asian Infantry Regt, 4th Coy, weapon number 116
1900/Erfurt/933/O.F.A1.21.
1900/Erfurt/6316a/O.P.111.
1902/Erfurt/7446d/O.158. (This rifle may or may not be Ostasiatisches marked unit disc.)
Seabataillon:
1899/Erfurt/5205/ III.S.B.2.199
1903/DWM/ 2225/I.S.B.3693
1903/DWM/2096a/ II.S.B.3023
1913/Spandau/9060c/ III.S.B.R.321
1913/Spandau/9741c/ III.S.B.R.124
1914/Danzig/4070/II.S.B.
1915/DWM/1510/I.S.B.414
1915/Spandau/4339d/I.S.B.1111 (Low-level Armorer Rework Seebataillon Marked. This rifle is part of the C.Clemons collection.
Ostasiatische Marine-Detachement:
1913/Erfurt/2133a O.M.D.39
1913/Erfurt/2475a/O.M.D.49 (This Kar98 is part of M.Cammack collection.)
Machine Guns of the Schutztruppe and Overseas Forces:
DWM
1910/DWM/817 (This MG08 was aboard either the SMS Goeben or SMS Breslau when they sailed into the Mediterranean Sea before the First World War. When war broke out both ships made for Istanbul where they placed themselves under Ottoman naval command.
Soon after and indeed largely due to the ships' involvement, the Ottoman Empire was dragged into the war on the side of Germany and Austria-Hungary. Britain and France launched an invasion of the Dardanelles straights (although the British contingent was largely made up of Australian and New Zealand troops and the French contingent was partially Senegalese) at Gallipoli. To assist the defending Ottoman army the German ships sent machine guns and their crews to the frontline. This machine gun was captured at the Second Battle of Krithia on 6th May 1915 by Hood Battalion of the 2nd (Royal Naval) bergade.
They then presented it to their overall commanding officer, the departing French commander, General Albert d'Amade. The gun remained in d'Amade's chateau until after his death in 1941. The new owners of the chateau handed it in to the French Gendarmerie, who in turn tried to give it to the "Musée de l'Infanterie" at Montpellier but they turned it down. Finally it was given to its present owner, a gunsmith named Gilles Sigro.)
1912/DWM/1115 (This MG08 which is a German Navy MG08, on an Acland tripod. Estimated manufacture date is 1912. Captured by the Cape Corps in a bayonet charge in German East Africa in 1917.)
1915/DWM/5008 (provenance unknown, but the most unusual trenchmount suggests DOA use. This MG08 may have been in the 1916 Marie shipment, as the trench mount that it is mounted on would likely have not been available as early as 1915.) This MG08 is part of C. Amm collection.
Spandau
1912/Spandau/1741 (This MG08 was used in the GSWA.
1912/Spandau/1871 (This MG08 was used by Colonial police in the DOA, with unusual 1909 commercial type tripod." Also captured by the Cape Corps in a bayonet charge in German East Africa in 1917.)
Note: (Both MG08 1115 and 1871 have been restored by C. Amm and are now on display in a museum in cap town.)
Handguns of the Overseas forces:
Mauser Construction 1896 (Broom handle) pistol
?/Mauser Oberndorf/?/1052 Keetmanshoop
(Orts Polizei Behörde' or local police authority, and 'Keetmanshoop' in German South West Africa. This pistol is unique because it is a early slabside model.)
Luger P.04:
1916/DWM/855/I.S.B.662
P04 belongs to the last series of these weapons, is dated 1916 and has serial number 855. It was given to I Seebataillon as a weapon nr. 662
Luger 1906 Navy:
?/DWM/330/W.K./2470 & I.S.B. (1906 Navy 1st Alt.
W.K./2740 lined out.)
?/DWM/693/I.S.B.639 1906 Navy
?/DWM/911/I.S.B.619 & S.W.I.1448
(1906 Navy N.A. Weimar rework. 4” barrel, sear and mag (removed) safeties.
Chamber marked 1920 and front grip S.W.I. 1448.)
?/DWM/1647/I.S.B.705 (1906 Navy
Mixed early and late C/M’s (correct). Replacement side-pate.)
?/DWM/1649/.W.K./200 & I.S.B.290 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. Front grip strap marked I.S.B./290. Lightly pitted, chipped left grip.)
?/DWM/1661/I.S.B.715 (1906 Navy 1st Alt.)
?/DWM/1676/I.S.B.709 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. Replacement barrel, externally numbered side-plate & force matched magazine. Small parts re-strawed. In Germany.)
?/DWM/1863/W.W./610 & I.S.B.289 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. Weimar rework, barrel shortened to 4”, original Navy rear toggle, rear grip strap marked W.W./610, front grip strap
I.S.B./289.)
?/DWM/1870/W.K./22 & I.S.B.186 (1906 Navy 1st Alt.“GERMANY” marked under barrel. An old re-blue but still a nice looking gun with some isolated pitting. Rear grip strap
marked W.K./22, front strap marked I.S.B.186.)
?/DWM/2168/I.S.B.702 (1906 Navy)
?/DWM/2401/I.S.B.16 (1906 Navy 1st Alt.
In France.)
?/DWM/2593/W.K./223 & I.S.B.251 1906 Navy
?/DWM/2634/I.S.B.711 (1906 Navy 1st Alt.
Some light pitting.)
?/DWM/3036/I.S.B.111 (1906 Navy)
?/DWM/3715/W.K./250 & I.S.B.280 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. I.S.B./280 on front grip strap.)
?/DWM/3864/I.S.B. (1906 Navy 1st Alt
3 Lobe Chipped left grip, decent condition otherwise.)
?/DWM/3980/I.S.B. (1906 Navy 1st Alt.
Frame only, top half is from a G date Mauser.)
?/DWM/4113/I.S.B.18 (1906 Navy 1st Alt.
The gun has been refinished and the matching number mag is fake, as are the matching numbered stock and holster that are offered with it.
?/DWM/4978/II.S.B.3 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt.
Nice original condition.)
?/DWM/5004/II.S.B.6 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt.)
?/DWM/5029/II.S.B. (1906 Navy)
?/DWM/5124/II.S.B.32 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt. Double matched consecutive pair with #5125. Force matched mag.)
?/DWM/5125/II.S.B.33 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt. Double matched consecutive pair with #5124. Force matched mag. Has later Army proofs on stock lug.)
?/DWM/5136/I.S.B.230 & W.K./2813 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. I.S.B./230 on front grip strap. “Navy Arsenal refinish”, barrel ”GERMANY” marked.)
?/DWM/5444/W.W./567 & I.S.B.273 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. I.S.B./273 on front grip strap.)
?/DWM/5720/II.S.B.81 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt. “Refinished over light pitting.” Poor condition over all.)
?/DWM/5749/II.S.B.82 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt.
Stamped “GERMANY” on left frame rail. Nice original finish.)
?/DWM/6019/W.W./802 & I.S.B.295 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. I.S.B./295 on front grip strap. Matching number stock.)
?/?/6090/W.K.2800 & I.S.B.237 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. I.S.B./237 on front grip strap, Decent shape.)
?/DWM/6542/W.K./1479 & I.S.B. (1906 Navy
Also marked W.K./1479, lined out.)
?/DWM/2509a/I.S.B.76 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. “GERMANY” marked under barrel. Has bluing on safety block which is indicative of some localized touch-up, other than that looks to be in decent original condition. Some
damage to left grip.)
?/DWM/5404a/I.S.B.?9 (1906 Navy In Germany.)
?/DWM/5684a/I.S.B.68 1906 Navy
?/DWM/7614a/ II.S.B.95 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt. Mismatched side-plate.)
?/DWM/7689a/II.S.B.98 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt. “Armorer’s replacement mag.”. In Germany)
?/DWM/7812a/II.S.B.116 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt.
In France. Some parts reblued.)
?/DWM/7924a/II.S.B.129 (1906 Navy. In Germany)
?/DWM/9461a/I.S.B159 (1906 Navy 2nd Issue Professional restoration. Unit marked on front grip strap.)
?/DWM/555b/I.S.B.434 (1906 Navy 2nd Issue Refinished.)
?/DWM/?/GOUV. KIAU. 278 & O.M.D.2.6. 1906 Navy
Luger P.08 :
?/?/5403b/I.S.B.345 (1908 Navy Beech grips.)
?/?/5414b/I.S.B.371. (1908 Navy
Lightly pitted finish looks original.)
?/?/5950b/I.S.B.360 (1908 Navy)
?/?/7794b/I.S.B.507 (1908 Navy)
?/?/7947b/I.S.B.524 (1908 Navy)
DWM 1911 : Sch. D.O.A. 4 to Sch. D.O.A.172
1911/DWM/139f/Sch.D.O.A.101.
(Schutztruppe Deutsch Ost-Afrika, gun No. 101.
1911/DWM/?/Sch.D.O.A.18
Erfurt 1911 : Landespolizei markings that range between L.P.3 and L.P.396
1911/Erfurt/301/L.P.215
1911/Erfurt/518/L.P. 225
1911/Erfurt/937/L.P.396
1911/Erfurt/1245/L.P. 37
1911/Erfurt/?/L.P. 54
1911/Erfurt/1091/L.P. 211
DWM 1911 : Landespolizei markings that range between L.P.95 and L.P.416
1911/DWM/677e/ L.P.95 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 95)
1911/DWM/9656e/L.P. 157 <two lines>- (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 157)
1911/DWM/199f/L.P.336 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 336) This Luger also a WR 37370 number the side of the pistol.
1911/DWM/274f/L.P.253 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 253)
1911/DWM/166f/L.P.335 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 343)
1911/DWM/9844e/L.P.343
(Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 343)
1911/DWM/9772e/L.P.370 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 370)
1911/DWM/?/L.P. 416(Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 416)
DWM 1913 : Landespolizei markings that range between L.P.472 and L.P.525
1913/DWM/5019/L.P.492 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 492)
Luger 1916 Navy variant:
1916/?/693/I.S.B.639 (1916 Navy)
1916/DWM/803/I.S.B.681 (1916 Navy)
1916/DWM/855/I.S.B.662 (1916 Navy barrel marked “Germany”. In Italy. Unrelieved sear bar.)
1916/DWM/860/I.S.B.586 (1916 Navy)
1916/DWM/886/I.S.B.643 (1916 Navy)
1916/DWM/911/I.S.B.619 (1916 Navy
Weimar conversion, 4” barrel, sear and magazine safeties.)
1916/DWM/978/I.S.B.606. (1916 Navy Unrelieved sear bar.)
Roth-Sauer model 1907 Pistol:
"According to "Unter dem Kreuz des Südens" by S Schepp there were 213 Roth-Sauer model 1907 pistols in service with the Landespolizei in 1912." (LP markings that range between L.P.46 and L.P.307) information from C. Amm
?/Roth-Sauer/ C 61/LP 237
?/Roth-Sauer/C 161/LP 72
?/ Roth-Sauer/C 205/LP 106
?/ Roth-Sauer/C 212/LP 123
?/ Roth-Sauer/C 273/LP 184
?/ Roth-Sauer/C 377/LP 161
?/Roth-Sauer/C 378/LP 228
?/Roth-Sauer/C396/ LP 90 This Roth-Sauer was used by Karl Füchsel (1883-1960) Polizeisergeant Füchsel used: Roth-Sauer-Pistole LP 90 (Fabrik Nr 396) July, 1 1912)
?/Roth-Sauer/C 408/LP 55
?/Roth-Sauer/C 419/LP 92
?/Roth-Sauer/C 486/LP 54
?/Roth-Sauer/C 559/LP 109
?/Roth-Sauer/C 706/LP 209
?/Roth-Sauer/C 737/LP 179
1879 and 1883 der Revolver or Reichsrevolver:
1879 Der Revolver:
?/ V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/4523/I.S.B.9. R
?/ V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/4553/II.S.B.240.
1883 Der Revolver:
Erfurt
?/Erfurt/272d/OA1 MK1 (This pistol has two sets of unit markings. The first is "OA1 MK1" for "Ostasiatisches Field-Artillerie Regiment Batterie 1 Muntionskolonne 1." (East Asian Artillery Regiment, 1st Battery, 1st Munitions Supply Column). The second marking after it is a later issue marking "143R.9.5.." for the 9th Company of the 143rd Lower Alsatian Infantry Regiment ("4. Unter-Elsässisches Infanterie-Regiment. Nr.143") which served on the Western Front during the First World War
1894/Erfurt/1953/1.O.R.4.3 (This pistol has three sets of unit markings. Two are from East Asian service- First "1.O.R.4.3" 4th East Asian Infantry Regiment, 4th Company.
Second "O.A.F.2.18" (2nd Battery, East Asian Foot Artillery). The third is "M.G.A.1.30" for the 1st Machine Gun Abteilung of the Prussian Army.)
1893/Erfurt/2419/O.A.7.8. Ostasiatisches, Feld-Artillerie-Regiment, Batterie 7, Waffe Nr. 8. The second mark is 2.O.R.10 which is ID'd as Ostasiatisches Infanterie-Regiment 2, Stab, Waffe Nr. 10.
1893/Erfurt/2945/5.O.R. 5.8
1895/Erfurt/2298/O.A.2.29 & 70.A.A.15
1896/Erfurt/3848/K.G.P.39
1899/Erfurt/6137/K.G.P.246.
18.RA.3.142. This has been cancelled with X over-stampings. 18.RA.1.1?? This has been cancelled with a file. The weapon number begins with 1, but it is not clear if it was a two or three digit number.
V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl
?/V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/5/ K.S.12.
?/ V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/26L/K.S.211 (Part of MWC collection)
?/V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/?/ K.S.102
?/V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/?/ K.S.202
In 1912, there were 494 Reichsrevolvers, 301 Roth-Sauers and 442 P08s in the inventory of the Landespolizei.
Schutztruppe marked muzzle cap
K.S. 10855 (In the South African private collection.)
K.S. 16 (muzzle cap once part of Craig Brown collection and was on rifle 1900/Spandau/4977c/K.S.9043.S This rifle is also marked 2.F.R.7.81
K.S. 9930
K.S. 11349
Note:Many rifles on my list have Question marks for their serial numbers. That is because I found them in South African auction house or they belong to collectors. So I could not acquire the serial number. Thank you.
Updated on 4/12/2024
Bayonets and unit disc markings
Southwest Africa:
KS = Kaiserliche Schutztruppe
K.S. (no) = Kaiserliche Schutztruppe DSWA
L.P. (no.) = Landespolizei DSWA
K.G.P. (no.)=Kaiserliches Gouvernement Polizei and seem to be used in 1905-07.
(no.) F.R.E. (no.) =Feld Regiment Ersatz
The Schutztruppe were only temporarily formed into regimental units during the Herero Rebellion.
(no.) F.R. (no.) =Feld-Regiment
The Schutztruppe were only temporarily formed into regimental units during the Herero Rebellion.
F.P. (no.) Fuhrpark-Kolonne of the Schutztruppe of South West Africa.
Kamerun:
Sch. K.(no.)= Kamerun
S.K. (no.)= Schutztruppe Kamerun
P.T.K. (no.) = Polizeitruppe Kamerun
East Africa:
Sch. D.O.A (no.) = Deutsch Ost-Afrika
Togo:
P.T. (no.) = Polizeitruppe Togo (no Schutztruppe in Togo, just police)
Other Colonial markings:
F.K. = Feld Kompagnie (14 in DOA, 9 in DSWA, 12 in Kamerun)
Sch. A. (no.) = Schutzpolizei Anhalt-Scheinwerfer-Abteilung. there were 2 in DSWA.
Sch. PI. (no.)= Schießplatz training unit.
S.F. (no.)= Samoan Polizeitruppe and Fita-Fita
P. (no.) Simpler mark for Kamerun or Togo Polizeitruppe.
Seabataillon
I. S.B.R. (no.)= I. Seebataillon) was based at Kiel
Il. S.B.R. (no.)= II. Seebataillon) at Wilhelmshaven.
Ill. S.B.R. (no.)= III. Seebataillon) was formed in Tsingtao in China in 1898 and permanently based there, with small staff base at Cuxhaven.
O.M.D.(no.) = Ostasiatische Marine Detachmen. Marine Detachment of Marine Infantry troops based in Peking and Tientsin from 1909 to 1914.
Ostasiatische Expeditionscorps or Imperial East Asian expedition corp
(no.)O.R.(no.)= East Asian expedition corp
No.)O.J.(no.)= Ostasiatische Jäger company
O.F.A.(no.)= Ostasiatische Feld-Artillerie
O.P.( no.)= Ostasiatische Pionier
O.E.(no.)= Oberkommando des Ostasiatischen Expeditionkorps or it may be Ostasiatische Eisenbahn Batallion.
South African Union Defence Force or UDF (post 1912) marks on Schutztruppegewehr 98's.
Arrow in U = service
Diamond in U = sold out of service.
Firearms used by the Schutztruppe in the African colonies.
Mauser Jägerbüchse 1871:
1875/ÖWG/840c/Sch.D.O.A.430
1.R.I.2.81. (This Jägerbüchse was used by the Schutztruppe of German East Africa.) Old unit mark has been ex-out.
1875/ÖWG/2687f/Sch.K (This Jägerbüchse was also used by the Schutztruppe of Kamerun. This rifle is part of a private collection in Germany)
1875/ÖWG/4084E/Sch.D.O.A.1587 (1909 or later. This Jägerbüchse was also used by the Schutztruppe of German East Africa.)
1875/ÖWG/7356J/E.16.91 and with Colonial Eagle and “S”.
1875/ÖWG/?/Sch.D.O.A. (This Jägerbüchse was used by the Schutztruppe of German East Africa.)
*NOTE: Beginning in 1909 the Spandau arsenal altered numbers of JB71s for colonial service by adding an ejector. JB71s issued to colonial units before 1909 had no ejector.
Gew 88 and Kar 88 used by the Schutztruppe.
?/?/873/K.S. 2470. S (Note: this Gew 88 has 873 on the receiver and has a odd unit disc on the side of the stock. Receiver has been scrubbed. It was found in Namibia in the late 80's or early 90's.) This rifle is part of the T. Dawes collection in South Africa.
1890/V.C.Schilling and Suhl/4760/B.M.S.7
1892/V.C.Schilling and Suhl/?812/?
Art Kar 98, Kav Kar 98, Kar.98 1st variant, Kar.98 2nd model and Kar98a of the Schutztruppe:
1901 Erfurt
1901/Erfurt/1645/F.P.3.72 (Fahrpark-Kolonne Nr,3, Waffe Nr.72), indicates this carbine could have seen service with the Kaiserliche Schutztruppe in South-West Africa against the Hereros and Hottentotten, when they rebelled against the German Colonial Troops. First pattern of carbine.
1901/Erfurt/2499/? (This carbine is marked Art. Kar.98 for artillery on the side rail.)
1904 Erfurt
1904/Erfurt/596/? Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/2107/3.F.P.1.32 (note: F.P.1.32 Fahrpark-Kolonne Nr.1 waffe Nr. 32 (Second pattern of carbine.)
1904/Erfurt/3155/? Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/5564/? Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/6806/? Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1905 Erfurt
1905/Erfurt/8352/5.F.P.4.51 (note: 5.F.P.4.51 Fahrpark-Kolonne Nr.4 waffe Nr. 51. Kar.98 2nd model of carbine. This carbine is part of the T. Dawes collection in South Africa.
Kar.98a
1912 Erfurt
1912/Erfurt/2470/Sch.K.8.35 Kamerun,
8th Feldkompagnie, weapon number 35.
1912/Erfurt/4306/Sch.K.12.91 Kamerun,
12th Feldkompagnie, weapon number 91.
1912 Danzig
1912/Danzig/3933/Sch.D.O.A.487 (This rifle is in private hands in Australia. This carbine was also used by the Schutztruppe of German East Africa.)
1912/Danzig/?/SCH.D.O.A.1080 (This carbine was also used by the Schutztruppe of German East Africa.)
The Kar98a became the standard issue service rifle in the DOA, Kamerun and Togo by 1913. NCOs were first to get it. They started the re-equipment of Askaris with it, which was still in progress by 1914. Askaris in 5 companies (1., 4., 8., 10. and 13. FK) were equipped with it by start of war.
Schutztruppengewehr 1898 used by the Kaiserliche Schutztruppe:
Mauser Oberndorf am Neckar
1899/WMO/6735/K.S.10228.S (very few details about this rifle. It is unknown if stock is original to the receiver.)
Spandau 1900
1900/Spandau/148d/K.S. 2333. S This rifle is past of the T. Dawes collection in South Africa.
1900/Spandau/3534c/K.S. 190. S
1900/Spandau/4977c/K.S.9043.S This rifle is also marked 2.F.R.7.81
1900/Spandau/5750c/K.S.9671
1900/Spandau/6507/K.S.10784 (Part of MWC collection)
1900/Spandau/6660c/K.S.2706 .S (This rifle is also marked. L.P.638)
1900/Spandau/7267c/K.S.226.S (This rifle is has been spotirized. Forward end of the stock has been cut down all the way to the second Barrel ban spring. Rifle is in a private collection in South Africa.)
1900/Spandau/7467i/K.S.9043
1900/Spandau/7478b/K.S. (KCN report - SA collection, stated "KS")
1900/Spandau/8559c/K.S.10834. (In Private collection in Germany)
1900/Spandau/9037c/K.S. 2030. S
1900/Spandau/9450c/K.S.1623.S (Rifle in a South African collection. (UDF marked)
1900/Spandau/?/K.S.10279
1900/Spandau/?/K.S.11194(This rifle is also marked. L.P.424)
1900/Spandau/?/K.S. also UDF marked.
(Gew 98 was found in South African auction house "ClassicArms" Catalog as item number F016) auction of 5/7/2022
1900/Spandau/?/K.S. (Gew 98 was found in South African auction house "ClassicArms" Catalog as item number F030) auction of 3/23/2019
Spandau 1901
1901/Spandau/168/K.S.9788.S (eGun poor pictures.)
1901/Spandau/1473/? (report - stated KS)
1901/Spandau/1575/K.S. 8274. S
1901/Spandau/1744/K.S.1138. S(Two UDF marks above the serial number. One is (Arrow in U = service) the other is (Diamond in U = sold out of service.)
1901/Spandau/B2004B/K.S.1755. S (Serial number is not original. Serial number is not a new registration number. UDF numbers usually have U as the start perfix. Also this rifles barrel and action have been reblued.)
1901/Spandau/2346/ K.S.11260
1901/Spandau/2538/K.S.
1901/Spandau/2692/K.S.792.S
1901/Spandau/2719/? (This rifle is a barreled Schutztruppegewehr 98 action but in a normal stock. This rifle also doesn't have a unit dice. Very much a mix master rifle. Bolt doesn't match to rest of the rifle. WR 34122 on side of the receiver stands for weapons register. Each firearm in SA is registered but if there is a duplication then a WR number is given for that rifle. The serial number 2719 isn't German. The standard Gewehr 1898 stock has a 1920 property proof mark on it.) Rifles owner is J. Hoffman
1901/Spandau/3670/K.S.11220. Rifle resides in a private collection in Namibia.
1901/Spandau/4141/K.S. (KCN report - SA collection)
1901/Spandau/4839/K.S.1378.S "Underneath the bolt handle in the bolt cut out there is a "N within D"
1901/Spandau/5115/K.S.1187.S (this rifle has a South African Union Defence Force or UDF marked. Mark is diamond in U = sold out of service on the receiver.) Rifle is privately owned by L. Hildago.
1901/Spandau/5117a /K.S. 2539.S (report - SA collection)
1901/Spandau/5703/K.S.
1901/Spandau/5881a/K.S.2869.S
1901/Spandau/5895/ No K.S. marking
1901/Spandau/5922a/KS (KCN report - SA collection)
1901/Spandau/6693/K.S.3904.S (In Private collection in Germany) (WR 35630 on side of the receiver stands for weapons register. Each firearm in SA is registered but if there is a duplication then a WR number is given for that rifle.)
1901/Spandau/6958/K.S.4061.S (UDF marked)
1901/Spandau/7028/K.S.1138
1901/Spandau/7083/KS (CB report)
1901/Spandau /7372/K.S.4349.S (SA collection)
1901/Spandau/?/K.S.2748
1901/Spandau/?/K.S.2177.S (serial unknown)
1901/Spandau/?/? (serial unknown & unknown K.S. marking.)
Spandau 1903
1903/Spandau/1210a/? (KCN report - SA collection)
Spandau 1914
1914/Spandau/10/? ( In 1914 some new Schutztruppegewehr 1898 were manufactured with bolt handles of the cyclist rifle. It is not known how many of these rifles were manufactured or if any made there way to the African colonies.)
Erfurt 1902
1902/Erfurt/1133/K.S.4540 (UDF marked)
1902/Erfurt/9925e/K.S.9881
Erfurt 1903
1903/Erfurt/1144f/K.S.5682.S
1903/Erfurt/?/K.S.5072.S (UDF marked)
Firearms of the Landespolizei and Polizeitruppe.
Mauser Gewehr 1871:
1875/Spandau/2896/ This rifle is marked ORTSPolizeibehörde Windhoek 2166.
Rack or issue number is 2166.
Mauser Jägerbüchse 1871:
1877/Danzig/4329/Sch.K.2107 "P. ERDELT/NEUSTADT" used by the Polizeitruppe of Kamerun.
1880/Danzig/2343/This rifle is marked "ORTSPolizeibehörde Bethanien 359" (This would indicate that it was used by a Kaiserliches Gouvernement Polizei unit at Bethanien in SouthWest Africa, prior to the formation of the Landespolizei in 1905. 359 would be the weapon issue number.)
1881/Danzig/9564/? (Rifle has issue number of 2104. The issue number is flanked on both sides with the Imperial Colonial eagle and a letter "S". The "S" proof could stand for Spitzkoppe but we will never know.
?/ÖWG/4294/10.D.4.97 (This rifle was 1871 Jägerbüchse that been sporterized. It is also marked "ORTSPolizeibehörde Warmbad 160" for Southwest African Police.)
NOTE: Beginning in 1909 Spandau arsenal altered numbers of JB71s for colonial service by adding an ejector. JB71s issued to colonial units before 1909 had no ejector.
Gew 88 and Kar 88 used by the Landespolizei and Polizeitruppe.
1893/Erfurt/8525q/? (This carbine was captured by the British in 1914 in the German colony of Togo. This carbine was used by the Togo Polizeitruppe. The carbine is now on display in the British Imperial war museum.)
Art Kar 98, Kav Kar 98, Kar.98 1st variant, Kar.98 2nd model and Kar98a of the Landespolizei and Polizeitruppe:
1901 Erfurt
1901/Erfurt/2043/marked in the wood “Ortspolizeibehorde Gibeon 899”, and F.T.A 50 on the butt disc. (Note: This carbine is marked Kav. Kar 98 on the side rail.) C. Amm collection.
1904 Erfurt
1904/Erfurt/4411/K.G.P. 150 on the buttplate extension. C. Amm collection.
1904/Erfurt/4540/K.G.P.46.
(note: K.G.P. stands for Kaiserliches Gouvernement Polizei and seem to be used in 1905-07.) Second pattern of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/5101/K.G.P. 139 Kaiserliches Gouvernement Polizei and seem to be used in 1905-07. (Ortspolitzie Windhuk & Ortspolitzie Bethanien.) Second pattern of carbine. This carbine is past of the T. Dawes collection in South Africa.
1904/Erfurt/6800/ Urispolizei Behörde Luderitzbucht No.258 on the butt plate. Unit mark is "District Police Property" Very common before the formation of the Landespolizei in 1907. Also there is L 258 above the Erfurt on the crest. Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/6913/K.G.P.47. Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
1904/Erfurt/7141/K.G.P.202. Kar.98 2nd model of carbine.
Schutztruppegewehr 98 of the Landespolizei and Polizeitruppe:
1900 Spandau
1900/Spandau/4262c/L.P.200 (Part of MWC collection)
1900/Spandau/4524c/L.P.XXX (This rifle was used by the UDF. With three UDF proof marks of the receiver. With a WR number of WR43482 on the left side of receiver and barrel. Original serial numbers and inventory serial number has been X out.
1900/Spandau/4640/L.P.273 (This rifle has a South American Mauser replacement stock most likely from a Brazilian 1908. Also removed and replaced original disc with a replacement unit disc marked. K.S.10797 .S )
1900/Spandau/6174c/L.P.561 (UDF marked)
1900/Spandau/6212/L.P.569 (This Gew 98 was used by Karl Füchsel (1883-1960) Polizeisergeant Füchsel used: S. Gewehr Nr. LP 569 (Fabrik Nr 6212, Spandau 1900);
July, 1 1912)
1900/Spandau/6660c/L.P.638 (This rifle is also marked. K.S.2706 .S)
1900/Spandau/7530c/L.P.750
LP 750 with the numbers erased (made unrecognizable) and below the crown over SPANDAU and 1900. On the left side: military proof of heraldic eagles linearly next to it the S.No. 7530 c and above it two ownership stamps of the ZAR (South African Republic) and also mark 98
1900/Spandau/7538/L.P.xxx (suffix unknown-numbers x'd out. This rifle is also UDF marked)
1900/Spandau/?/L.P.424 (This rifle is also marked. K.S.11194)
East Asian Force's:
1899/ Erfurt/5390/4.O.R.9.188
1900/ Spandau/7357a/1.O.R.4.116
1900/Spandau/8074a/1.O.J.R.2.55
1st East Asian Infantry Regt, 4th Coy, weapon number 116
1900/Erfurt/933/O.F.A1.21.
1900/Erfurt/6316a/O.P.111.
1902/Erfurt/7446d/O.158. (This rifle may or may not be Ostasiatisches marked unit disc.)
Seabataillon:
1899/Erfurt/5205/ III.S.B.2.199
1903/DWM/ 2225/I.S.B.3693
1903/DWM/2096a/ II.S.B.3023
1913/Spandau/9060c/ III.S.B.R.321
1913/Spandau/9741c/ III.S.B.R.124
1914/Danzig/4070/II.S.B.
1915/DWM/1510/I.S.B.414
1915/Spandau/4339d/I.S.B.1111 (Low-level Armorer Rework Seebataillon Marked. This rifle is part of the C.Clemons collection.
Ostasiatische Marine-Detachement:
1913/Erfurt/2133a O.M.D.39
1913/Erfurt/2475a/O.M.D.49 (This Kar98 is part of M.Cammack collection.)
Machine Guns of the Schutztruppe and Overseas Forces:
DWM
1910/DWM/817 (This MG08 was aboard either the SMS Goeben or SMS Breslau when they sailed into the Mediterranean Sea before the First World War. When war broke out both ships made for Istanbul where they placed themselves under Ottoman naval command.
Soon after and indeed largely due to the ships' involvement, the Ottoman Empire was dragged into the war on the side of Germany and Austria-Hungary. Britain and France launched an invasion of the Dardanelles straights (although the British contingent was largely made up of Australian and New Zealand troops and the French contingent was partially Senegalese) at Gallipoli. To assist the defending Ottoman army the German ships sent machine guns and their crews to the frontline. This machine gun was captured at the Second Battle of Krithia on 6th May 1915 by Hood Battalion of the 2nd (Royal Naval) bergade.
They then presented it to their overall commanding officer, the departing French commander, General Albert d'Amade. The gun remained in d'Amade's chateau until after his death in 1941. The new owners of the chateau handed it in to the French Gendarmerie, who in turn tried to give it to the "Musée de l'Infanterie" at Montpellier but they turned it down. Finally it was given to its present owner, a gunsmith named Gilles Sigro.)
1912/DWM/1115 (This MG08 which is a German Navy MG08, on an Acland tripod. Estimated manufacture date is 1912. Captured by the Cape Corps in a bayonet charge in German East Africa in 1917.)
1915/DWM/5008 (provenance unknown, but the most unusual trenchmount suggests DOA use. This MG08 may have been in the 1916 Marie shipment, as the trench mount that it is mounted on would likely have not been available as early as 1915.) This MG08 is part of C. Amm collection.
Spandau
1912/Spandau/1741 (This MG08 was used in the GSWA.
1912/Spandau/1871 (This MG08 was used by Colonial police in the DOA, with unusual 1909 commercial type tripod." Also captured by the Cape Corps in a bayonet charge in German East Africa in 1917.)
Note: (Both MG08 1115 and 1871 have been restored by C. Amm and are now on display in a museum in cap town.)
Handguns of the Overseas forces:
Mauser Construction 1896 (Broom handle) pistol
?/Mauser Oberndorf/?/1052 Keetmanshoop
(Orts Polizei Behörde' or local police authority, and 'Keetmanshoop' in German South West Africa. This pistol is unique because it is a early slabside model.)
Luger P.04:
1916/DWM/855/I.S.B.662
P04 belongs to the last series of these weapons, is dated 1916 and has serial number 855. It was given to I Seebataillon as a weapon nr. 662
Luger 1906 Navy:
?/DWM/330/W.K./2470 & I.S.B. (1906 Navy 1st Alt.
W.K./2740 lined out.)
?/DWM/693/I.S.B.639 1906 Navy
?/DWM/911/I.S.B.619 & S.W.I.1448
(1906 Navy N.A. Weimar rework. 4” barrel, sear and mag (removed) safeties.
Chamber marked 1920 and front grip S.W.I. 1448.)
?/DWM/1647/I.S.B.705 (1906 Navy
Mixed early and late C/M’s (correct). Replacement side-pate.)
?/DWM/1649/.W.K./200 & I.S.B.290 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. Front grip strap marked I.S.B./290. Lightly pitted, chipped left grip.)
?/DWM/1661/I.S.B.715 (1906 Navy 1st Alt.)
?/DWM/1676/I.S.B.709 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. Replacement barrel, externally numbered side-plate & force matched magazine. Small parts re-strawed. In Germany.)
?/DWM/1863/W.W./610 & I.S.B.289 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. Weimar rework, barrel shortened to 4”, original Navy rear toggle, rear grip strap marked W.W./610, front grip strap
I.S.B./289.)
?/DWM/1870/W.K./22 & I.S.B.186 (1906 Navy 1st Alt.“GERMANY” marked under barrel. An old re-blue but still a nice looking gun with some isolated pitting. Rear grip strap
marked W.K./22, front strap marked I.S.B.186.)
?/DWM/2168/I.S.B.702 (1906 Navy)
?/DWM/2401/I.S.B.16 (1906 Navy 1st Alt.
In France.)
?/DWM/2593/W.K./223 & I.S.B.251 1906 Navy
?/DWM/2634/I.S.B.711 (1906 Navy 1st Alt.
Some light pitting.)
?/DWM/3036/I.S.B.111 (1906 Navy)
?/DWM/3715/W.K./250 & I.S.B.280 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. I.S.B./280 on front grip strap.)
?/DWM/3864/I.S.B. (1906 Navy 1st Alt
3 Lobe Chipped left grip, decent condition otherwise.)
?/DWM/3980/I.S.B. (1906 Navy 1st Alt.
Frame only, top half is from a G date Mauser.)
?/DWM/4113/I.S.B.18 (1906 Navy 1st Alt.
The gun has been refinished and the matching number mag is fake, as are the matching numbered stock and holster that are offered with it.
?/DWM/4978/II.S.B.3 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt.
Nice original condition.)
?/DWM/5004/II.S.B.6 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt.)
?/DWM/5029/II.S.B. (1906 Navy)
?/DWM/5124/II.S.B.32 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt. Double matched consecutive pair with #5125. Force matched mag.)
?/DWM/5125/II.S.B.33 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt. Double matched consecutive pair with #5124. Force matched mag. Has later Army proofs on stock lug.)
?/DWM/5136/I.S.B.230 & W.K./2813 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. I.S.B./230 on front grip strap. “Navy Arsenal refinish”, barrel ”GERMANY” marked.)
?/DWM/5444/W.W./567 & I.S.B.273 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. I.S.B./273 on front grip strap.)
?/DWM/5720/II.S.B.81 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt. “Refinished over light pitting.” Poor condition over all.)
?/DWM/5749/II.S.B.82 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt.
Stamped “GERMANY” on left frame rail. Nice original finish.)
?/DWM/6019/W.W./802 & I.S.B.295 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. I.S.B./295 on front grip strap. Matching number stock.)
?/?/6090/W.K.2800 & I.S.B.237 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. I.S.B./237 on front grip strap, Decent shape.)
?/DWM/6542/W.K./1479 & I.S.B. (1906 Navy
Also marked W.K./1479, lined out.)
?/DWM/2509a/I.S.B.76 (1906 Navy 1st Alt. “GERMANY” marked under barrel. Has bluing on safety block which is indicative of some localized touch-up, other than that looks to be in decent original condition. Some
damage to left grip.)
?/DWM/5404a/I.S.B.?9 (1906 Navy In Germany.)
?/DWM/5684a/I.S.B.68 1906 Navy
?/DWM/7614a/ II.S.B.95 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt. Mismatched side-plate.)
?/DWM/7689a/II.S.B.98 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt. “Armorer’s replacement mag.”. In Germany)
?/DWM/7812a/II.S.B.116 (1906 Navy 1st Unalt.
In France. Some parts reblued.)
?/DWM/7924a/II.S.B.129 (1906 Navy. In Germany)
?/DWM/9461a/I.S.B159 (1906 Navy 2nd Issue Professional restoration. Unit marked on front grip strap.)
?/DWM/555b/I.S.B.434 (1906 Navy 2nd Issue Refinished.)
?/DWM/?/GOUV. KIAU. 278 & O.M.D.2.6. 1906 Navy
Luger P.08 :
?/?/5403b/I.S.B.345 (1908 Navy Beech grips.)
?/?/5414b/I.S.B.371. (1908 Navy
Lightly pitted finish looks original.)
?/?/5950b/I.S.B.360 (1908 Navy)
?/?/7794b/I.S.B.507 (1908 Navy)
?/?/7947b/I.S.B.524 (1908 Navy)
DWM 1911 : Sch. D.O.A. 4 to Sch. D.O.A.172
1911/DWM/139f/Sch.D.O.A.101.
(Schutztruppe Deutsch Ost-Afrika, gun No. 101.
1911/DWM/?/Sch.D.O.A.18
Erfurt 1911 : Landespolizei markings that range between L.P.3 and L.P.396
1911/Erfurt/301/L.P.215
1911/Erfurt/518/L.P. 225
1911/Erfurt/937/L.P.396
1911/Erfurt/1245/L.P. 37
1911/Erfurt/?/L.P. 54
1911/Erfurt/1091/L.P. 211
DWM 1911 : Landespolizei markings that range between L.P.95 and L.P.416
1911/DWM/677e/ L.P.95 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 95)
1911/DWM/9656e/L.P. 157 <two lines>- (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 157)
1911/DWM/199f/L.P.336 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 336) This Luger also a WR 37370 number the side of the pistol.
1911/DWM/274f/L.P.253 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 253)
1911/DWM/166f/L.P.335 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 343)
1911/DWM/9844e/L.P.343
(Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 343)
1911/DWM/9772e/L.P.370 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 370)
1911/DWM/?/L.P. 416(Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 416)
DWM 1913 : Landespolizei markings that range between L.P.472 and L.P.525
1913/DWM/5019/L.P.492 (Landespolizei Deutsch-Südwest Afrika, Waffe Nr. 492)
Luger 1916 Navy variant:
1916/?/693/I.S.B.639 (1916 Navy)
1916/DWM/803/I.S.B.681 (1916 Navy)
1916/DWM/855/I.S.B.662 (1916 Navy barrel marked “Germany”. In Italy. Unrelieved sear bar.)
1916/DWM/860/I.S.B.586 (1916 Navy)
1916/DWM/886/I.S.B.643 (1916 Navy)
1916/DWM/911/I.S.B.619 (1916 Navy
Weimar conversion, 4” barrel, sear and magazine safeties.)
1916/DWM/978/I.S.B.606. (1916 Navy Unrelieved sear bar.)
Roth-Sauer model 1907 Pistol:
"According to "Unter dem Kreuz des Südens" by S Schepp there were 213 Roth-Sauer model 1907 pistols in service with the Landespolizei in 1912." (LP markings that range between L.P.46 and L.P.307) information from C. Amm
?/Roth-Sauer/ C 61/LP 237
?/Roth-Sauer/C 161/LP 72
?/ Roth-Sauer/C 205/LP 106
?/ Roth-Sauer/C 212/LP 123
?/ Roth-Sauer/C 273/LP 184
?/ Roth-Sauer/C 377/LP 161
?/Roth-Sauer/C 378/LP 228
?/Roth-Sauer/C396/ LP 90 This Roth-Sauer was used by Karl Füchsel (1883-1960) Polizeisergeant Füchsel used: Roth-Sauer-Pistole LP 90 (Fabrik Nr 396) July, 1 1912)
?/Roth-Sauer/C 408/LP 55
?/Roth-Sauer/C 419/LP 92
?/Roth-Sauer/C 486/LP 54
?/Roth-Sauer/C 559/LP 109
?/Roth-Sauer/C 706/LP 209
?/Roth-Sauer/C 737/LP 179
1879 and 1883 der Revolver or Reichsrevolver:
1879 Der Revolver:
?/ V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/4523/I.S.B.9. R
?/ V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/4553/II.S.B.240.
1883 Der Revolver:
Erfurt
?/Erfurt/272d/OA1 MK1 (This pistol has two sets of unit markings. The first is "OA1 MK1" for "Ostasiatisches Field-Artillerie Regiment Batterie 1 Muntionskolonne 1." (East Asian Artillery Regiment, 1st Battery, 1st Munitions Supply Column). The second marking after it is a later issue marking "143R.9.5.." for the 9th Company of the 143rd Lower Alsatian Infantry Regiment ("4. Unter-Elsässisches Infanterie-Regiment. Nr.143") which served on the Western Front during the First World War
1894/Erfurt/1953/1.O.R.4.3 (This pistol has three sets of unit markings. Two are from East Asian service- First "1.O.R.4.3" 4th East Asian Infantry Regiment, 4th Company.
Second "O.A.F.2.18" (2nd Battery, East Asian Foot Artillery). The third is "M.G.A.1.30" for the 1st Machine Gun Abteilung of the Prussian Army.)
1893/Erfurt/2419/O.A.7.8. Ostasiatisches, Feld-Artillerie-Regiment, Batterie 7, Waffe Nr. 8. The second mark is 2.O.R.10 which is ID'd as Ostasiatisches Infanterie-Regiment 2, Stab, Waffe Nr. 10.
1893/Erfurt/2945/5.O.R. 5.8
1895/Erfurt/2298/O.A.2.29 & 70.A.A.15
1896/Erfurt/3848/K.G.P.39
1899/Erfurt/6137/K.G.P.246.
18.RA.3.142. This has been cancelled with X over-stampings. 18.RA.1.1?? This has been cancelled with a file. The weapon number begins with 1, but it is not clear if it was a two or three digit number.
V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl
?/V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/5/ K.S.12.
?/ V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/26L/K.S.211 (Part of MWC collection)
?/V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/?/ K.S.102
?/V.C.S*C.C.H. Suhl/?/ K.S.202
In 1912, there were 494 Reichsrevolvers, 301 Roth-Sauers and 442 P08s in the inventory of the Landespolizei.
Schutztruppe marked muzzle cap
K.S. 10855 (In the South African private collection.)
K.S. 16 (muzzle cap once part of Craig Brown collection and was on rifle 1900/Spandau/4977c/K.S.9043.S This rifle is also marked 2.F.R.7.81
K.S. 9930
K.S. 11349
Note:Many rifles on my list have Question marks for their serial numbers. That is because I found them in South African auction house or they belong to collectors. So I could not acquire the serial number. Thank you.
Updated on 4/12/2024
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