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Picked up a Radom

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A good friend of mine parted with this one, and it’s the first one I’ve had. I picked this one for the pivotal time in SDP’s history, and I also like the dark brown grips a lot. This one has the additional frame inspection too.
 

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OP
* Nice pics. The clarity is stunning.
* History written in steel:
- This one has an assembly date very near to the Steyr plant bombing. VIS barrel production curtailed for maybe about a month I'm told. Wonder if it has a barrel from the batch before or after the bombing?
- Also, this one is only slightly after the 2/B Radom kits (nominally 2/B2000-2/B6000) temporarily "lost" in storage or transport (somewhere). This pistol's kit was likely pushed ahead in assembly to fill the 2/B gap which was later "found" & assembled contemporary with the 2/K phosphate guns.
- It is said the German VIS tracks the state of the German's WW2 fortune better than any other pistol. So here, even in early '44, rough on the outside; but, still smoothly functioning on the inside. That trigger guard eagle inspection is thought to be a batch check by an "additional-final" Inspector. See the same intermittent TG (or Tang) eagle in '44 Walther P38 pistols. Possibly the rough exterior deviated from spec enough that an addition buy-off was necessary. The truth is likely lost to time.

Jeff,
* As others, I have never seen an e/77 mark in that frame location before. Always something new w/ these VIS's. Sure think you are right on its use being related to the frame "control" number. The "A" prefix is certainly out of the normal "W", "Wj", or "X" sequence seen in these 2/C pistols. Either a new alphabet tracking sequence was being initiated about the time your pistol's frame was needed, a keep on track check was initiated or, as you opine, a substitution was made. I'll drink a cold one to any of those.

Bob
 
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A good friend of mine parted with this one, and it’s the first one I’ve had. I picked this one for the pivotal time in SDP’s history, and I also like the dark brown grips a lot. This one has the additional frame inspection too.

Clay when I first read the title, I thought you wrote “ picked up a random”, I was looking forward to a story. Btw the pistol is ok.
 
Thanks Bob, great info! I would lean towards the inspection of a known flaw, perhaps even internal machining that couldn’t readily be stamped, except on the outside. We see so much of this with rifles, take Sauer for instance which often have a receiver bridge forging flaw, as well as an additional inspection on the receiver ring below the wood line. Jeff’s pistol seems to support this as well, very neat to see!
 
OP
* Nice pics. The clarity is stunning.
* History written in steel:
- This one has an assembly date very near to the Steyr plant bombing. VIS barrel production curtailed for maybe about a month I'm told. Wonder if it has a barrel from the batch before or after the bombing?
- Also, this one is only slightly after the 2/B Radom kits (nominally 2/B2000-2/B6000) temporarily "lost" in storage or transport (somewhere). This pistol's kit was likely pushed ahead in assembly to fill the 2/B gap which was later "found" & assembled contemporary with the 2/K phosphate guns.
- It is said the German VIS tracks the state of the German's WW2 fortune better than any other pistol. So here, even in early '44, rough on the outside; but, still smoothly functioning on the inside. That trigger guard eagle inspection is thought to be a batch check by an "additional-final" Inspector. See the same intermittent TG (or Tang) eagle in '44 Walther P38 pistols. Possibly the rough exterior deviated from spec enough that an addition buy-off was necessary. The truth is likely lost to time.

Jeff,
* As others, I have never seen an e/77 mark in that frame location before. Always something new w/ these VIS's. Sure think you are right on its use being related to the frame "control" number. The "A" prefix is certainly out of the normal "W", "Wj", or "X" sequence seen in these 2/C pistols. Either a new alphabet tracking sequence was being initiated about the time your pistol's frame was needed, a keep on track check was initiated or, as you opine, a substitution was made. I'll drink a cold one to any of those.

Bob
Bob, thank you for the information and history. Interesting pistols nonetheless. I enjoy any opportunity to learn about them and add one to the collection.

Thanks again, Jeff
 

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