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    Quote Originally Posted by Wernher von Beige View Post
    Apparently a snot-nosed British kid. Probably never saw combat and now he's afraid he never will.

    He's gathering background information so he can tell his grandkids how he kicked the Germans' asses in WW2.
    In today's American military, that would be treated as a war crime. The kid would be reduced, placed on extra duty and confinement, stripped of all his benefits and kicked out of the military. How times have changed.

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    That's where my Dad cross when he surrender to the Americans. He was in the HJ with his brother. He told me they buried there weapons before surrendering a MG 34 and a K98in oily rags. I always asked him lets go find them.

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    look closely and you will also notice he is wearing a hard shell holster on a german belt with the buckle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BishopofBling View Post
    Why is that guy kicking them they're clearly moving
    one possibility: the kicker is dressed is dressed like a para troop. My dad told me (66th Infantry Div) that on D-Day, German troops captured some paras, tied them to trees & disemboweled them as a warning to following Allied ground troops. I can’t say if this was true, but my father definitely thought so. One of his service friends, (82nd or 101st AB) was named Mueller, they tied him to a tree, but because his name was German, they “only” smashed his face w/a rifle butt. (he survived, disfigured) I’ve seen a photo of the two of them after the war, Mueller’s face was definitely messed up. The kicking para may have been pissed about that, I know I would’vs been!!

    note: the 66th didn’t go over on D-Day, they went Christmas Eve, do a search on the Leopoldville sinking if you’d care to know more....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muncher 1953 View Post
    One of his service friends, (82nd or 101st AB) was named Mueller, they tied him to a tree, but because his name was German, they “only” smashed his face w/a rifle butt. (he survived, disfigured) I’ve seen a photo of the two of them after the war, Mueller’s face was definitely messed up.
    I would've thought that someone of German lineage, fighting for the Allies, would've gotten it even worse (although I can't think of much worse than being disemboweled!)

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    many occassions the germans were just confused on why their own kind would fight them. Im surprised they touched him at all and didnt just take him to a pow camp.

    Its a bit interesting their response to paratroopers when they had such an infamous group themselves (fallschimjager)

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    War is hell, & otherwise normal people sometimes do terrible things..........

    given the widespread distribution & use of Pervitin (methedrine) tablets to maintain energy & alertness by German troops, very little surprises me. Imagine an ARMY of methheads w/hair-trigger tempers turned loose on the world. Raging paranoia & weapons are a bad combination........

    As to descendants of German emigrants fighting against the fatherland, oh how they must have hated having Eisenhower as Allied supreme commander!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muncher 1953 View Post
    given the widespread distribution & use of Pervitin (methedrine) tablets to maintain energy & alertness by German troops, very little surprises me. Imagine an ARMY of methheads w/hair-trigger tempers turned loose on the world. Raging paranoia & weapons are a bad combination........
    https://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/nazi...war-1835829390

    Nazis Weren't the Only Ones Using Meth During World War II



    https://allthatsinteresting.com/amph...se-world-war-2

    Allied Forces Dosed Their Troops With Amphetamines After Seeing The Nazis Do It, New Doc Claims
    After the British discovered the Nazis' meth-like secret weapon in a downed German plane, they decided to develop their own performance-enhancement program.
    According to LiveScience, both American and British soldiers boosted their physical alertness using cocaine and Benzedrine, an amphetamine that allowed GIs to make it through grueling, endless hours of exhaustion.


    https://militaryhistorynow.com/2018/...se-in-wartime/
    Combat High – How Armies Throughout History Used Drugs to Make Soldiers Fight

    Overall, it is estimated that from 1939 to 1945 the German military consumed some 200 million meth pills.

    Britain, the U.S. and Japan followed suit, administering amphetamines to their troops. It’s estimated that British soldiers consumed around 72 million Benzedrine amphetamine tablets in World War Two. The drug was distributed largely to pilots, but also to infantrymen. For example, on Oct. 23, 1942 General Bernard Montgomery gave away some 100,000 pills to his Eighth Army before the Second Battle of El Alamein. The British high on speed managed to defeat the Germans, who were laced with meth. The role of uppers in the outcome of this battle remains, however, largely unexplored.

    By 1942 Benzedrine tablets (popularly known as “bennies”) were added to emergency kits for American bomber crews and in 1943 the practice was extended to the infantry. About 15 percent of U.S. soldiers regularly took the stimulant. In fact, the Pentagon issued at least 250 million Benzedrine pills to the troops, yet the total number might be as high as 500 million.


    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...oldier/477183/
    The Drugs That Built a Super Soldier
    During the Vietnam War, the U.S. military plied its servicemen with speed, steroids, and painkillers to help them handle extended combat.


    So... just from the number of pills popped in WW2, it's obvious that... the Allies won the drug war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wernher von Beige View Post

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...oldier/477183/
    The Drugs That Built a Super Soldier
    During the Vietnam War, the U.S. military plied its servicemen with speed, steroids, and painkillers to help them handle extended combat.
    Ordinarily I wouldn't trust anything published in The Atlantic, it's an anti-American commie rag.

    But in one of my SOG books, either Plaster's "Photo History of the Secret Wars" or Greco's "Running Recon", I remember reading that the Studies & Observation troops had special CIA-issue "super-duper" speed pills available to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.W. Parker View Post
    Ordinarily I wouldn't trust anything published in The Atlantic, it's an anti-American commie rag.

    But in one of my SOG books, either Plaster's "Photo History of the Secret Wars" or Greco's "Running Recon", I remember reading that the Studies & Observation troops had special CIA-issue "super-duper" speed pills available to them.

    Richie
    The Atlantic is nothing but Leftist Shit ....

    In country 1968 - 1969, Light Weapons Infantry, 1st Inf. Div., and I NEVER saw any of this shit going on.

    Perhaps with some Special Groups, who knows ?????

    But it never happened in regular line unit organizations.......

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