heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
That K167 on the bolt collar/shroud in the photos you added tag that to a very early (pre-WaA) MO part. Pretty cool mix of stuff on that bolt. Too bad about the RC finish but it is what it is.
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Gerst
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So the shroud might be a Weimar era part? What’s “MO?”
What did the Russians use to make the parts so dark? I guess they disassembled everything down to the last screw, cleaned the parts, blackened them, added their scribble snd reassembled them without regard to manufacturers codes or acceptance stamps.
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MO= mauser Oberndorf
The Russians used a cheap hot dip
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Gerst
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Rare parts
I just hope he finds time to figure out how to list it so that I can jump on it first!
Finding a proper Simson bolt or a suitable Weimar era substitute looks like a matter of luck based on what you tell me. The people who possess these rare parts, and who know what they have, aren’t likely to part with them but are probably saving them either as rarities or to one day use these themselves to complete restorations, like my 98b!
I just hope he finds time to figure out how to list it so that I can jump on it first!
Finding a proper Simson bolt or a suitable Weimar era substitute looks like a matter of luck based on what you tell me. The people who possess these rare parts, and who know what they have, aren’t likely to part with them but are probably saving them either as rarities or to one day use these themselves to complete restorations, like my 98b!
Gerst
Senior Member
Assuming I am able to buy a suitable Weimar-era bolt, would it be better to sell the RC bolt as a single unit or to break it down, clean it, and sell it piecemeal? Your thoughts, please.
Gerst
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My TC bolt
Assuming that the Weimar bolt works for me, i will unload the “RC special.” The bolt body has no serial number but that may be a positive.
Here is another photo which seems to have imperial proofs. Take a look.
Assuming that the Weimar bolt works for me, i will unload the “RC special.” The bolt body has no serial number but that may be a positive.
Here is another photo which seems to have imperial proofs. Take a look.
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Gerst
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Here is the bottom of the bolt shroud. Do those figures mean anything?
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heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
I'm sure it could be nailed down to a certain time frame. Blued, fairly quality machining. Accepted with full 4 digit serial so all those features will date it.
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
Just like the many qlyphs on the bottom of a receiver in many cases they're internal process marks most of which are both undocumented and unknown. Obviously they served some purpose for the internal tracking of step completion but beyond that we just don't know.
Gerst
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Where does one find information indicating that code K/167 is for Oberndorf?
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Gerst
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Is it Oberndorf?
Gerst
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What should I ask for it with spring?
Warrior1354
ax - hole
That is for Steyr and bolt gas shield could be a left over Polish Radom component.
runner
Senior Member
Only Mauser Oberndorf used these boxed type inspection stamps on 1934 and early 1935 production.
The best source for all things K98k are the four volume book set by Karem and Steves. Nothing else is
close unless you can read German and have access to original factory documents.
Gerst
Senior Member
Wrong number......please dial again!
[in short, if you have a E/WaA16 bolt, best guess is it is Zeithain, though such a high serial does seem to introduce some doubt, in 1926 they approached this 4500 range, but falls sort so far, but the E/16 is only known in 1927 (1926 E/11. E/12, E/13 and E/14 are recorded) and they barely made half that production (serial) range. However, it seems the most likely possibility. It would be helpful to see this WaA16 bolt as reporting markings do not give the same impression as the ability to make comparisons (fireproofs, fonts, associated characteristics, markings etc..) .[/QUOTE]
The bolt is either an e/115 or e/116, not an e/16. My "trade partner" either has poor eyesight or, like our liberal friends, he sees what he wants to see!
[in short, if you have a E/WaA16 bolt, best guess is it is Zeithain, though such a high serial does seem to introduce some doubt, in 1926 they approached this 4500 range, but falls sort so far, but the E/16 is only known in 1927 (1926 E/11. E/12, E/13 and E/14 are recorded) and they barely made half that production (serial) range. However, it seems the most likely possibility. It would be helpful to see this WaA16 bolt as reporting markings do not give the same impression as the ability to make comparisons (fireproofs, fonts, associated characteristics, markings etc..) .[/QUOTE]
The bolt is either an e/115 or e/116, not an e/16. My "trade partner" either has poor eyesight or, like our liberal friends, he sees what he wants to see!
The bolt is either an e/115 or e/116, not an e/16. My "trade partner" either has poor eyesight or, like our liberal friends, he sees what he wants to see![/QUOTE]
To my earlier comment, it's early Sauer (S/147G most likely), still quite a desirable and rare bolt
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