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Another National Arms and Ammunition Co. Gew. 71

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With the interest shown in other posts on these rifles, I thought I would post mine. I picked it up years ago when I had only a passing interest in Imperial arms, and it has been hidden away since.
All matching, the cleaning rod has no sn but it does have a acceptance stamp. Overall pretty good condition, good bore, but the stock is either well worn or lightly sanded, the stock marks are
unfortunately faint.
 

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Included pictures of an original unit marked ammo pouch for the Gew. 71 and 71/84
 

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Great rifle Frank! You are a lucky man!

Can you post a pic of the firing proof under the bolt handle?

Sent from my moto g power using Tapatalk
 
So Frank is holding out on us!

The earliest so far recorded, no issue date, but can you do a picture or tell us whether the bolts lower flat is Crown/B like Chris's? So far his is the only one with bolt acceptance recorded, that yours matches and so close (and production so isolated from Germany) one would expect all of these to fall in line with one another, especially when this close. I am sure the inspectors changed to a degree, perhaps more arrived than stayed, perhaps the Germans couldn't get use to fish & chips and tea!

Anyway, I added it to the study, surprising that we have two in a week or so.
 
So Frank is holding out on us!

The earliest so far recorded, no issue date, but can you do a picture or tell us whether the bolts lower flat is Crown/B like Chris's? So far his is the only one with bolt acceptance recorded, that yours matches and so close (and production so isolated from Germany) one would expect all of these to fall in line with one another, especially when this close. I am sure the inspectors changed to a degree, perhaps more arrived than stayed, perhaps the Germans couldn't get use to fish & chips and tea!

Anyway, I added it to the study, surprising that we have two in a week or so.

On the bolt flat opposite the sn, no acceptance, there is what appears to be a very small v, or perhaps it is just a mark on the bolt. I did get some more stock markings and the unit mark that I neglected to photo before.
What are the SW marks, British inspectors? On these pictures alone I have SW 10, on stock, SW 24 on trigger guard, and SW23 on the buttplate.

Not holding out,,, but as I am selling stuff off in anticipation of a permanent move to the farm, and less space, I keep finding stuff I didn't know I had. Most of it stuff I picked up for a song in the late 80s, early 90s. Lived in Ky/southern In. then, and
Mausers were plentiful there.
 

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Thanks Frank, I added the unit, - strange about the C/B on Chris's and an absence of any crowned acceptance on yours, though I am sure this is right. With only a trends of "two" for this feature we can't offer much of a guess as to why or what is "normal".

I also linked both Chris's and yours in the research thread (in-bedded a link in your handles) to link to the respective rifle posts.

As for the S.W.# markings, I can't say I have an answer or even a guess of merit, Storz (146-150) is the only reference I noted, and it is very superficial and a bit confusing depending upon interpretation,- although the translation is far superior than for his M98 volume, it is still confused and he would have done everyone a favor by treating Steyr and Birmingham separately and not mingled them together as foreign contractors. Steyr/OWG of course would have been less of a problem for such work, OWG was at least the equal of the German makers in every respect, especially in 1875, but it seems the use of an English firm was more problematic. Storz isn't clear at all, probably he doesn't know or the records are incomplete or too technical to be useful in a book for collectors needs, but I suspect the S.W. numbers are Birmingham inspectors working for their German counterparts, which Storz states (obviously) that they didn't do hands on work (which is obvious and always the case, it is well known the firms provided workers that worked under his or their authority, this is mentioned many times in several books and completely general procedure in most modern states at the time - he also states that individual inspecting was essentially random and not thorough, this too is typical practice well through WWII. sample lots are tested, not every single component in every case), so it stands to reason the German inspectors would rely upon skilled English workers and probably had their own numbers for accountability.

Anyway, all guess work, even if we could get a large sample, but for our purposes, - mine anyway - Storz books could easily be half the size for my purpose, for such large, heavy and expensive volumes you would expect more, but in most things his content or subjects could easily be distilled into a few sentences (often cloudy sentences that leave a great deal to interpretation - still great books on subjects that until his effort relied upon even less, - mostly observations)
 

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