Danuvia 39M submachine gun

[Absolut]

Well, didn't expect this to happen after I already had lucked into a Danuvia 43M submachine gun last year (see this thread here: https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/danuvia-43m-submachine-gun.44464/ ) that already the following year I'd be as lucky as to find the much rarer encountered 39M ancestor. But in a recent estate there was one, plus I managed to get a deal done on all items so I could get this one back from Police and avoid this one either going into a governmental (museum) storage or being scrapped.

Anyway, attached are some pictures of it. What those don't show is the direct comparison with the 43M. To my surprise the 39M is maybe 10cm longer than the 43M. Both the butt stock is longer, as well as the barrel and the front stock end being longer. The action however seems to be almost identical.

Note the particular shown 39M has an incorrect 43M magazine in it. That magazine can be locked, but as illustrated in the images the top raises far too high into the action so feeding is impossible. Finally, I digitally removed the last two digits of the serial. Speaking of the serial, while the one on the action remained in the same place on both the 39M and 43M it is interesting to note the 39M has the serial much larger on the right side of the butt stock whereas the 43M has the serial rather small stamped right under the receiver serial on the left side.

Also took out the bolt. Very simple construction and in my point of view a very clever design. It does not surprise me this MP performed very well during WWII and was beloved by those who had it - only the 9mm Mauser ammo is said to have been tough to get. It is quite large, much larger than most machine pistols. Actually it is size-wise very similar to the MP44/StG44.

PS: if someone has a correct magazine to the 39M or leads to one, I'd highly appreciate it!

 

[Hambone]

Wow, cograts Absolut. I did not know that existed. I would have said 43M. Congrats. Pic stickied for reference. Thanks for posting.

 

[Absolut]

Thanks!

Forgot to mention: check out the cutout in the bolt at the rear (left). That is exactly where the cocking lever fits in. And take notice of the cutout for the cocking lever in the receiver at the very rear. This is where it may be pulled out or inserted. Amazing simple and easy operation.

Receiver cover at the rear is also only spring held. Depress that button on the right rear of the receiver, turn the cap and if you as I don't know that it only needs 90° turn you have the end cap straight in your face!

 

[Pat]

Outstanding!!
That is an amazing find, as very few have survived.

 

[heavy_mech]

Very neat piece! Congrats and thanks for sharing!!

 

[Absolut]

Thanks for the kind words. If you want/need any more details, just let me know - can take additional pictures!

 

[Absolut]

This is the best gun forum on the internet! Someone read this:

PS: if someone has a correct magazine to the 39M or leads to one, I'd highly appreciate it!

And yesterday finally arrived my first correct 39M magazine! Put it in the gun, SNAP, properly works and locks - see the first picture. For the second picture I've placed it aside the 43M magazine (43M left, 39M right). Aside the red painted ribs on 39M magazines (same red painted ribs/inscriptions as to be found on the guns; see pictures in my starting post) note the very different angle on top of the magazine. Of course obvious when comparing the different angles the magazines are held on the 39M versus the 43M.

 

[biggymu]

Absolut, very cool weapon. Try as I might, on my phone I cannot see the red paint in the inscriptions on the weapon. Were the weapons and magazines accented in red to differentiate the 2 different models at a glance perhaps?

 

[beatone]

I see the red paint on the mag on the right on my phone. A Samsung 20. Very cool gun for sure.

 

[Absolut]

Absolut, very cool weapon. Try as I might, on my phone I cannot see the red paint in the inscriptions on the weapon. Were the weapons and magazines accented in red to differentiate the 2 different models at a glance perhaps?

I wondered the same. But since the paint is only on the earlier 39M model when no one knew of a possible later 43M model, I don‘t think so. You wouldn‘t then pull the guns just to lay out markings on the older model red, easier to do it opposite way. What the red color really means - idk. Have to check the Hungarian book on it that I had bought, maybe this contains information.

 

[Icelander]

Toto je najlepšie fórum o zbraniach na internete! Niekto si prečítal toto:

A včera konečne dorazil môj prvý správny 39M časopis! Vložte do pištole, zacvaknite, správne a funguje uzamkne - viď prvý obrázok. Pre druhý obrázok som ho odložil na bok zásobníka 43M (43M vľavo, 39M vpravo). Okrem červeno namaľovaných rebier na zásobníkoch 39M (rovnaké červené maľované rebrá/nápisy ako na zbraniach; pozri obrázky v mojom

Toto je najlepšie fórum o zbraniach na internete! Niekto si prečítal toto:

A včera konečne dorazil môj prvý správny 39M časopis! Vložte do pištole, zacvaknite, správne funguje a uzamkne - viď prvý obrázok. Pre druhý obrázok som ho odložil na bok zásobníka 43M (43M vľavo, 39M vpravo). Okrem červeno namaľovaných rebier na zásobníkoch 39M (rovnaké červené maľované rebrá/nápisy ako na zbraniach; pozri obrázky v mojom úvodnom príspevku) si všimnite veľmi odlišný uhol na vrchu zásobníka. Samozrejme, že pri porovnaní rôznych uhlov sú zásobníky držané na 39M oproti 43M.

ahojte, chcel by som si kupit zasobnik na M43

 

[Absolut]

Unfortunately I don't speak Slovakian, if I at least identified the language correctly?

 

[iRONM4N]

Red paint on the magazine ( and also on the gun ) meaning is "not to put the magazine in an M43 smg" because they are not interchangeable.