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German Bayonet Manufacturers and Their Codes

denny gaither

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Here is a quick reference on the codes used by the manufacturers of the S84/98 III field bayonet before and during WWII.

S codes used on bayonets between years 1934 - 1937
S/155 - E.u.F. Hörster Waffenfabrik, Solingen
S/172 - Carl Eickhorn Stahlwarenfabrik, Solingen
S/173 – Alexander Coppel GmbH (Alcoso), Solingen
S/174 – WKC/Weyersberg, Kirschbaum & Cie, Solingen
S/175 - F.W.Höller Waffenfabrik, Solingen
S/176 – Paul Weyersberg & Co., Solingen
S/177 - Ernst Pack und Söhne, Solingen
S.178 - Gebr.Heller, Marienthal
S/184 - Josua Corts und Sohn, Remscheid
S/185 - Elite-Diamantwerk, Siegmar-Schönau bei Chemnitz
S.238 - Dürkopp Werke Actiengesellschaft, Bielefeld
S/239 - Rich.Abr. Herder, Solingen
S/240 - Friedrich Herder und Sohn, Solingen
S/241 - Clemen & Jung Waffen und Metallwarenfabrik, Solingen
S/242 - Berg & Co. Solingen-Ohligs
S/244 - Mundlos AG Nähmaschinenfabrik, Magdeburg Nord
S/245 - J.Sch. - Jetter und Scheerer, Tuttlingen

Bayonet makers marked their full name on bayonets between the years of 1937 - 1940/41
Berg & Co.
Clemen & Jung
Coppel G.m.b.H.
Jos. Corts
Dürkopp
Carl Eickhorn
Elite Diamant
Gebr. Heller
F.W. Höller
E.u.F. Hörster
F. Herder
Rich Abr. Herder
Mundlos
E. Pack & Söhne
J.Sch.
P. Weyersberg
W.K.C.
Maschinenhaus Ferlach – Kärnten, Ostmark – was the only manufacturer to use a logo with no name on their blades and scabbards in 1940. (see the attached picture at the bottom of this posting)

Letter Codes used in the remaining years of WWII
ab - Mundlos AG, 1941/44
agv - Berg & Co., 1941/mid 1944 then switched to pyy
asw - E.u.F Hörster, 1941/mid 1944 then switched to sgx
bym - Maschinenhaus Ferlach, 1941/45
can - Aug. Wallmeyer, Eisenach-Thüringen 1944 replacement scabbards only
clc - Richard Abr. Herder, 1941/44
cof - Carl Eickhorn, 1940/45
cqh - Clemen & Jung, 1941/44
crs - Paul Weyersberg & Co., 1940/45
cul - Ernst Pack & Söhne, 1940/44
cvl - WKC, 1940/45
ddl - Josua Corts, 1941/44
ffc - Friedrich Abr. Herder und Söhne, 1941/44
fnj - Alexander Coppel Gmbh, 1941/44
fze - F.W. Höller, 1941/44
i - Elite Diamant, 1941 only
jwh - Staatliche Waffenfabrik, Chatellerault, France 1941/44
pyy - Berg & Co., late 1944 only
sgx - E.u.F Hörster, 1944/45
Hope this is of some help. Any errors or corrections, let me know and I will make the necessary changes.


Maschinenhaus Ferlach
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denny gaither

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Is there a list of manufactures in order of their rariety?


Mike Welser's book "Reichswehr and Wehrmacht Bayonets 1920-1945" provides a general list of rarity rankings. Although it's not all-inclusive, it can get you started. The book is relatively inexpensive and available directly from Mike. PM me if you want his mailing address. To delve further into the subject, George Wheeler's book is a must - "Seitengewehr: History of the German Bayonet 1919-1945".
 

Slash

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Staff member
Is there a list of manufactures in order of their rariety?

Rarity of 1944 dated S84/98 by maker/code based on serial numbers extensions and examples produced. Listed from least to largest number produced with some of the most common variations included.

44pyy - Berg & Co. (second code)
44cvl - WKC (rivet grip variation only)
44cqh - Clemen & Jung
jwh44 - Staatliche Waffenfabrik
44fze - F.W. Höller
44sgx - E.u.F Hörster (second code)
44ddl - Josua Corts
44agv - Berg & Co.
44.cul - Ernst Pack & Söhne
ab44 - Mundlos AG
44asw - E.u.F Hörster (rivet grip variation only)
bym44 - Maschinenhaus Ferlach
44ffc - Friedrich Abr. Herder und Söhne
clc44 - Richard Abr. Herder
43/44asw - E.u.F Hörster (double date variation only)
44crs - Paul Weyersberg & Co.
44fnj - Alexander Coppel GmbH
44cvl - WKC
cof44 - Carl Eickhorn
44asw - E.u.F Hörster
 

wyo96

Member
That is great info. Thanks. There used to be a site (http://k98.free.fr/) where they had some of the same information, but lots of pictures to go with it. It isn't opening so hopefully it is not gone from the internet.
 

H-U Rudel

Member
chart

Hello Gents,

is there also a chart with the production numbers of the Bayonets produced from 1934 to 1937?

Like in Volume IIb.

Kind regards
Uli
 
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Marcus

Senior Member
Cool. I found out who made my 43 asw and my S/184 G

What does the G signify on the S/184 G marked bayonet? Is that a date code?

Somewhere around here I have a box of WW2 German 98k bayonets, I'll have locate it and see who the manufacturers of them are.
 
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Slash

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Staff member
What does the G signify on the S/184 G marked bayonet? Is that a date code?.

K is the date code for 1934. G indicates 1935. These were the only date codes used with the S.84/98.
 
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AndyB

Senior Member
"Maschinenhaus Ferlach – Kärnten, Ostmark – was the only manufacturer to use a logo with no name on their blades and scabbards in 1940."
The pictured logo is a caligraphic letter M for Maschinenhaus.Similar designation was used on prewar M1895 production.
 

Flint Armament

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Can anyone identify this bayonet's markings?

Hi folks, I am Steve and I'm new to your site... I've made an introduction on the home page and this is my first post with you all...
I recently acquired some WWI-2 items and one of the items is an 84/98 bayonet. However, none of the marking that I'm seeing on the item match what I am seeing in any of the archive that I've been able access. Hopefully, someone here can share their knowledge and help to identify what I have here? Sorry for the fuzzy pics!84-98_pic-2.jpg
 

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AndyB

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You have there a 43asw bayonet, as there is a 3127pp range and WaA519, You should look at opposite blade near crossguard, i asume there were wood grips. b.r.Andy
 
My Dad brought back a BFP 44 fze

Rarity of 1944 dated S84/98 by maker/code based on serial numbers extensions and examples produced. Listed from least to largest number produced with some of the most common variations included.

44pyy - Berg & Co. (second code)
44cvl - WKC (rivet grip variation only)
44cqh - Clemen & Jung
jwh44 - Staatliche Waffenfabrik
44fze - F.W. Höller
44sgx - E.u.F Hörster (second code)
44ddl - Josua Corts
44agv - Berg & Co.
44.cul - Ernst Pack & Söhne
ab44 - Mundlos AG
44asw - E.u.F Hörster (rivet grip variation only)
bym44 - Maschinenhaus Ferlach
44ffc - Friedrich Abr. Herder und Söhne
clc44 - Richard Abr. Herder
43/44asw - E.u.F Hörster (double date variation only)
44crs - Paul Weyersberg & Co.
44fnj - Alexander Coppel GmbH
44cvl - WKC
cof44 - Carl Eickhorn
44asw - E.u.F Hörster

Slash !! Thanks for the great Info..... Well according to your findings My Dads BF Pickup was in the 5th Rarest group of Bayonets it was a
44 fze "b" Block #8099.... its NFS
 

kstim

Member
German cqh bayonet

I have a WW2 german bayonet with the marking 44 cqh on the blade ricasso. I assume this is Clemen and Jung, 1944? Any information regarding rarity, dates, anything would be helpful. I have had this for over twenty years, but mostly my interest was in dress daggers, etc. Any info would be appreciated.

Tim
 

k98bayonet-jtns

Junior Member
Tysk cqh bajonet

Jeg har en tysk bajonet fra 2. verdenskrig med markeringen 44 cqh på bladet ricasso. Jeg antager, at dette er Clemen og Jung, 1944? Enhver information om sjældenhed, datoer, noget ville være nyttigt. Jeg har haft dette i over tyve år, men for det meste var min interesse i kjoledolke osv. Enhver info ville blive værdsat.

Tim
Hallo
44cqh is Clemen & Jung, 44 means 1944 and if you have any pictures ?, then the pictures always help
 

CanadianAR

Maple Syrup Mod Eh
Staff member
German cqh bayonet

I have a WW2 german bayonet with the marking 44 cqh on the blade ricasso. I assume this is Clemen and Jung, 1944? Any information regarding rarity, dates, anything would be helpful. I have had this for over twenty years, but mostly my interest was in dress daggers, etc. Any info would be appreciated.

Tim
Cqh is quite rare for 1944. The second least produced code after pyy. Start a thread and post some photos.
 

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