You know, I though this might be better as a new topic / thread, but I know the hard core PTR44 brethren all watch this thread closely, so I'm posting it here. Curious to know what extras everyone's bought (or had to buy) for their rifles and what work they may have had done to it (for whatever reason).
Here's my list of purchases (It's long, so grab a bag of popcorn and a beer):
1. (1) MP44C / BD44 / PTR44, etc. Rifle
2. (7) Repro. Mags. Various Markings (1 of them "BD44: marked)
3. (1) WW2 Mag. ("STG 44" marked)
4. (1) Bolt (WW2)
5. (1) Carrier (WW2)
6. (1) ZF4 Scope (Czech)
7. (1) ZF4 Scope Mount (Dunno)
8. (1) ZF4 Scope Cover (Dunno)
9. (1) Sling (Repro).
10. (1) Reloading Die Set (RCBS)
11. (1000)+ 8mm Mauser FMJ bullets (For reloading)
12. (1000)+/- Pcs. of Used Brass (Shot from PPU and reloads)
13. (2000)+/- Live Rounds (All PPU)
14. (200)+ Live Rounds (Reloads - Spitzer bullets - Hornady data)
15. (1) Hammer (Repro.)
16. (2) Disconnectors - (1 WW2 and 1 Recon-crap)
17. (1) Safety (WW2)
18. (1) Firing Pin (Recon)
19. (3) Extractors With Springs (1 WW2 and 2 Recon-crap)
20. (1) Recoil Spring Repro. (Dunno)
21. (1) Custom Hand Made Presentation Box (Mine's F'n Awesome !!! … and where'd you think American tactical got the idea from for their .22s? yep … )
22. (1) Front Hand Guard (Dunno)
Gunsmith work performed to either fix or improve the rifle (Done by none other than the Master himself ):
1. Fixed and improved lower receiver area.
2. Fixed front sight post.
3. Fixed dust cover.
4. Cleaned up mounting pins.
5. Modified Repro. mags. to fit better in Rifle.
6. Fitted WW2 carrier to Rifle.
7. Fitted WW2 bolt to Rifle.
8. Fixed Disconnector.
9. Fixed Safety.
10. Probably forgetting 2 or 3 other things.
Short end is this … I have bought for and have had a lot of shit done for this rifle. It shoots great again now. I still don't usually shoot more than (10) rounds in any repro. mag. at a time, but will occasionally load up the original WW2 mag. to (20). I also don't shoot the rifle very often given that they are appreciating so well. But I still shoot about 50 to 100 rounds each time I do and collect tickets from the people waiting around to hold it for a picture.
So, anyone else wanna spill their guts?
I told people these things would skyrocket.. Got chewed out(may have been this thread) and told how "this would make a stupid investment."
Now they are routinely bringing over 15k it would seem. Glad I got mine back when they were in the single digits.. Could sell it and darn near buy a brand new car but love her too much!
Can still get the real deal for $30-40k unless things have changed recently. If you're going to drop 20k for this, why not drop a further 10-15 for the transferable.
@ Above story. That's a great story. He paid 5k, but I'll bet its priceless to you. Those numrich repro mags are pricey at $98ea, did they give you any issues? The original mags that came with the PTR44 are absolute crap.
Oh GTFO!!! $20k??
I donât recall any issues with the Numrich mag. Original mags are listed on GB for $600 right now so I will stick with the reproduction. I am mostly concerned about the bolt and op-rod. Not sure if these are the good ones or if saving up for original parts would be necessary.
If the bolt and op-rod have been replaced with WWII parts they will have the German acceptance marks on them.
I sourced and replaced the once in mine since the ears broke of the bolt, also ended up replacing the hammer and sear since they wore out and the gun started doubling.
The BD44 is a marvelous reproduction but the internal parts were junk.
Well, "the club" always had limited number of membership cards. I heard of 199, maybe 200, in case someone was successful at putting the worst one back into working condition. Got mine in 2012 or 2013, don't remember exactly. Glad I didn't flinch when it became available. Sitting in the safe with all the other steadily appreciating junk.
The site is not suspended , only had a long Covid break du to the closed boarder. Finally back in USA, thanks to a KY senator. DWelcome to the club !!! Most of the owners here have been part of the BD44, MP44C, PTR44 saga for over 10 years (myself since 2007) , so you came to the right place. Sad too hear about your old man. It's tough. I've been there myself. Prayers to you and your family.
Now, to the rifle ... I'm sure you've read enough to know that one of the main things you want to do is replace the op rod. I'd recommend the bolt as well. My op rod ears didn't break like others, but i took no chance and a bought a WW2 bolt and op rod and had both fitted to the rifle. Also check that your chamber is reamed correctly. Reinforce the receiver where the bottom of the op rod/bolt assembly rides as that is known to wear down. Id also recommend getting a replacement trigger, safety, disconnector and maybe some other internals - stiffer spring can help some feeding issues. WW2 parts are great, but fitting will be required on many. SSD had a parts site online in the USA where you could get a lot of these, but i think Dittrich suspended it for now - i could be wrong about that.
Get at least 1 WW2 mag as they function flawlessly. However, you can fix some of the crap mags by adding material to the mag catch slot on the side of the mag - worked on several of mine. I have quite the variety of mags including one i got directly from SSD and an original WW2 stamped "STG 44".
Safe queen my ass. Shoot it. That's what they are meant for. BUT, if you haven't done the typical fixes, eventually "something" will likely break. OR, don't do the fixes and fondle it like Bilbo and Golem did with the ring of power. Your choice, buddy..
Mine is now Cali legal. Wooohooo !! She sat in Alaska for 2 years and after finding/grabbing a grip fin and a 10 round mag ... VIOLA !!!, i can bring her home to me now in Norcal where my nephews are chomping at the bit to shoot her - only 10 rounds each though as I still get a little concerned about breakage ... and at 20k a pop now !!!! Holy F me to tears Batman ... i definitely don't want a breakage now. And i have TONS more than that last auction guy had ... amateur, Hmph.
Hang on a sec... Gotta break into a song on that note: Sweeeeeet Caaaroline .. da da daaaaaa !!!
Feel free to call (p.m. me for phone #) if you wanna know more or need info on the 2 best MP44 gunsmith's i know that are out there. Both have memberships here on this forum. I and many of my online brothers here have literally posted books about this PITA toy - that we will never give up.
Welcome again !! ... and please post your experiences with the rifle here for all to see.
The site is not suspended , only had a long Covid break du to the closed boarder. Finally back in USA, thanks to a KY senator. D
Yeah I remember when these first came out. Weren't they about 5 or 6k? I still had 2 boys in school (expensive) so I wasn't in a position to buy one even though I'd given it a thought. I did NOT realize they made such a limited number however. As it turns out they were a pretty smart buy.
200 was the number of PTR-44 imported into the U.S. before the hammer dropped. Under the name BD-44 the PTR44 was also imported into Canada.
I wonder how many BD-44 and BD-42(H) Marstar brought in strictly
for Canadian market sales? A very small fraction of the 200?