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sad remnants of Navy marked RG34

Amberg

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sadly this RG34 has seen some rework after the war.
Overpainted. New contents. Divider newly spot welded.
BUT this is the first one I've come across with the rare swastika over M in circles stamp.
Otherwise unmarked.
 

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Amberg

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I recently talked with mrfarb about Kriegsmarine marked RGs.
They seem to show up very scarcely.
Attached some old shots showing my other Navy marked RGs.
Any others out there?

Thanks
Wolfgang
 

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pwcosol

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Here are pics of mine. Photo quality is mediocre as one just can't get decent pics without use of natural light (still a few hours away). Kit is a matched component KY 1939. Tin is a gloss bluish color. Markings on the patch end lid. Lightly etched along the support rib is: "Prop of Don Torgensen". Seems too coincidental that the last name is Norwegian, so in all likelihood this is one of the KM kits which Globe Militaria imported from there in the 1980s. It is possible "D.T." might have even been issued this kit in the post-WW2 years while in Norwegian military service.
 

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dot

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No manufacturer stamps ? Very interesting !

I have observed kits accepted by the Kriegsmarine only from the firm Kyffhäuserhütte and Hawig. Interestingly, the kits accepted by the Luftwaffe were from G.Appel.

Some pics of mine.

Antoni
 

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dot

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Here another Kriegsmarine Rg34 of 1939.

Antoni
 

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Amberg

Senior Member
Hello Antoni,
thanks for showing that KM marked kit.
From your observations, what is the latest KM marked cleaning kit? Other KM marked/accepted stuff shows up till 1943.
Thanks
Wolfgang
 

dot

Senior Member
Wolfgang, the latest Kriegsmarine kits observed by me are those of 1939, but I do not rule out the possible existence of later kits.

I think it's a good idea to summarize all the KM Rg34's observed here.

"Hawig" Hauswirtschaftsmaschinen-Gesellschaft mbH:
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M

Aktien-Maschinenfabrik Kyffhäuserhütte:
Ky1938 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M

Others:
unmarked - painted ? - Swastika over M, in circles both.

Please, if anyone has any addition, report here.
 

mrfarb

No War Eagles For You!
Staff member
I can confirm ky1939 tinned with Eagle M.


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Amberg

Senior Member
Wolfgang, the latest Kriegsmarine kits observed by me are those of 1939, but I do not rule out the possible existence of later kits.

I think it's a good idea to summarize all the KM Rg34's observed here.

Thanks Antoni,
that confirms my observations.

Have:

Ky 1938, tinned with "war eagle" (thanks to Mike for this designation!) over M
Pre 1940 HAWIG logo, tinned with Weimar style eagle over M and unit stamp
and the unmarked one shown here with the circled swastika over M

Thanks
Wolfgang

PS: looks like I'm in need of a painted Ky1939! ;-)
 
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dot

Senior Member
Thanks mrfarb and Amberg !

KM Rg34's update (with Amberg, pwcosol, mrfarb and dot):

"Hawig" Hauswirtschaftsmaschinen-Gesellschaft mbH
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit stamp N.608.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit stamp 103.

Aktien-Maschinenfabrik Kyffhäuserhütte:
Ky1938 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M

Others:
unmarked - painted ? - Swastika over M, in circles both.

Please, if anyone has any addition, report here.
 

Slash

Moderator
Staff member
Other KM marked/accepted stuff shows up till 1943.

I have a maker marked and 1944 dated bayonet frog which is also Eagle over M stamped. There are pics of it in the reference section.

And have seen the "double circle" marking on a 1941 dated bayonet frog so there must have been some overlap in the use of both styles.
 

Amberg

Senior Member
I have a maker marked and 1944 dated bayonet frog which is also Eagle over M stamped. There are pics of it in the reference section.

And have seen the "double circle" marking on a 1941 dated bayonet frog so there must have been some overlap in the use of both styles.

Thanks,
somehow I missed that 1944 frog.

IIRR the "double circle" has a different meaning. More like an accepted sample. But I need to cross check that.

Thanks
Wolfgang
 

dot

Senior Member
Another KM kit added to the list:

"Hawig" Hauswirtschaftsmaschinen-Gesellschaft mbH
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit stamp N.608.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit stamp 103.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit (?) stamp M.S.W.

Aktien-Maschinenfabrik Kyffhäuserhütte:
Ky1938 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M

Others:
unmarked - painted ? - Swastika over M, in circles both.

Please, if anyone has any addition, report here.
 

Amberg

Senior Member
I know of another HAWIG over here. Almost exactly like the one I showed here earlier, but with different N.xxx number.
 

dot

Senior Member
I know of another HAWIG over here. Almost exactly like the one I showed here earlier, but with different N.xxx number.

Thanks Wolfgang.

The N marking refers to Marinestation der Nordsee and the number that follows is the inventory number.

Updated KM Rg34's list:

"Hawig" Hauswirtschaftsmaschinen-Gesellschaft mbH
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and arsenal stamp N.608.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit stamp 103.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit (?) stamp M.S.W.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and arsenal stamp N.xxx.

Aktien-Maschinenfabrik Kyffhäuserhütte:
Ky1938 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M

Others:
unmarked - painted ? - Swastika over M, in circles both.

Please, if anyone has any addition, report here.
 

dot

Senior Member
Several additions to the KM Rg34 list, thanks to Slash.

"Hawig" Hauswirtschaftsmaschinen-Gesellschaft mbH
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and arsenal stamp N.608.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit stamp 103.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit (?) stamp M.S.W.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and arsenal stamp N.xxx.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M

Aktien-Maschinenfabrik Kyffhäuserhütte:
Ky1938 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M

Others:
unmarked - painted ? - Swastika over M, in circles both
unmarked - painted - Swastika over M, in circles both

Please, if anyone has any addition, report here.
 

dot

Senior Member
Another Rg34 addition to the KM list thanks to Slash, a G.Appel kit !

"Hawig" Hauswirtschaftsmaschinen-Gesellschaft mbH
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and arsenal stamp N.608.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit stamp 103.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and unit (?) stamp M.S.W.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and arsenal stamp N.xxx.
Hawig logo - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M

Aktien-Maschinenfabrik Kyffhäuserhütte:
Ky1938 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - tinned - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M
Ky1939 - painted - Nazi style eagle over M

Gustav Appel Maschinenfabrik:
G. Appel 1936 - tinned - Weimar style eagle over M and arsenal stamp N-16804

Others:
unmarked - painted ? - Swastika over M, in circles both
unmarked - painted - Swastika over M, in circles both

Please, if anyone has any addition, report here.
 

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