How to tell the diffrence between a 1943 dot wood stock set and a Yugo stock set?

[Johnbayou67]

I have a 1943 Kar98k DOT with a yugo stock. I would like to get an original DOT stock for it to make it some what complete.
Question: How do you recognize the differences between the diffrent stocks? Trying to get enlightened before any purchasing.

 

[mrfarb]

Well, you are in luck - the "correct" stock for this would be marked "dot" on the keel. With that said, the stock that you have there is technically correct. Even if you find a dot marked stock its not a huge difference in value IMO, unless your rifle is matching (save for the stock).

 

[bigwagon]

Just because your stock is Yugo marked doesn't mean it isn't still an original German K98 stock. It's not original, but as MRFARB said, it's still technically correct. I'm not sure there is much to be gained by replacing it.

 

[Johnbayou67]

I have purchased a 1943 Kar98k DOT with a Yugoslavian stock (So I've been told). I want to purchase an original DOT German stock, but i want to get enlightened before any purchase is made. Some guidance would be appreciated my comrades in arms.

 

[b32dominator]

Yes, that is a Yugoslavian stock. The horizontal serial number on the buttstock are a give away. They are also cut down one inch from the bayonet lug to fit Yugoslavian bayonets. The lower band was also moved down to fit the band spring.

 

[bigwagon]

Yes, that is a Yugoslavian stock. The horizontal serial number on the buttstock are a give away. They are also cut down one inch from the bayonet lug to fit Yugoslavian bayonets. The lower band was also moved down to fit the band spring.

That's not universally true. I have one I used to restore a sporter rescue and it retains the original K98 dimensions.

 

[Stan]

Yes, that is a Yugoslavian stock. The horizontal serial number on the buttstock are a give away. They are also cut down one inch from the bayonet lug to fit Yugoslavian bayonets. The lower band was also moved down to fit the band spring.

Some of the Yugoslav reworked stocks got cut down because the Yugoslav replacement barrels are about 1/2" shorter than the original German barrels. They cut a new step for the lower band and shortened the forend, but reused the original bayonet lug and bandspring unaltered. That's why they also require a modified handguard as well since the lower band is farther back after the mods. A Yugoslav bayonet will fit fine on any German K98k. Likewise, a German bayonet should fit just fine on the Yugoslav reworked rifle as well. The Yugoslav mods are done to preserve the original dimensions from the muzzle to the bayonet lug base. so that either German or Yugoslav bayonets can be used. The OP's rifle looks to have an un-shortened reworked stock looking at the photos.

 

[Johnbayou67]

This is an East German reworked rifle.
Not sure how or why a Yugo stock ended up on this rifle.

 

[Stan]

This is an East German reworked rifle.
Not sure how or why a Yugo stock ended up on this rifle.

Just so you know, the stock on your rifle is a WW2 German made stock that ended up on a Yugoslavian post WW2 rework. Your rifle may have been used as a sporter for a time and the original stock, or at least the East German reworked stock, may have been cut down for sporterizing. A Yugoslav reworked stock used to restore it back to military configuration. This is seen quite often these days.

 

[Johnbayou67]

So your saying my rifle is a sporterized Yugo?
Could this have happened after it's tour of duty with the East German DDR Bewaffenten Unit? Per it's Proof Markings.

 

[swjXE]

So your saying my rifle is a sporterized Yugo?
Could this have happened after it's tour of duty with the East German DDR Bewaffenten Unit? Per it's Proof Markings.

Yes!

 

[Johnbayou67]

but there's no Yugo markings on it anywhere? Or is it
I was advised on another post here, the stock was the only thing Yugo mismatched about the rifle.
Is there a way for me to confirm if the rifle was sporterized?

 

[Stan]

No. Only the stock looks to have a Yugoslav origin. If anything it MAY have been a sporterized East German rework. No way to say for certain how the original stock got removed. It may have been parted out and sold separately, or maybe it was sportered and reconfigured later with the Yugoslav refurbed stock. Perhaps it was even purchased as a barreled action and reconfigured by a previous owner using the current stock. Do the bands match the rifle s/n?

 

[Johnbayou67]

At first inspection, no serial numbers on the outside of the band.

 

[swjXE]

No. Only the stock looks to have a Yugoslav origin. If anything it MAY have been a sporterized East German rework. No way to say for certain how the original stock got removed. It may have been parted out and sold separately, or maybe it was sportered and reconfigured later with the Yugoslav refurbed stock. Perhaps it was even purchased as a barreled action and reconfigured by a previous owner using the current stock. Do the bands match the rifle s/n?

I totally agree with Stan! Definitely the wrong stock, but on the upside it's a pretty cool rifle, the metal is great and the bore appears to be nice also. If you hate the stock being mismatched you could try to make it look better by finding one that's not numbered on the outside. If this doesn't appeal to you I'm sure you'd have no trouble selling it for a fair price, then you could put the money toward something you really like.

 

[Johnbayou67]

I like the rifle, it's in great shape and has a lot of history in proof marks on it.. It's a solid shooter (I checked it with a No-Go gauge) lot's of range time left in her.
Does anyone no where I can get a DOT stock to upgrade with?

 

[Johnbayou67]

Thanks for the Intel my brothers in arms...Prost!

 

[k98dave]

I like the rifle, it's in great shape and has a lot of history in proof marks on it.. It's a solid shooter (I checked it with a No-Go gauge) lot's of range time left in her.
Does anyone no where I can get a DOT stock to upgrade with?

Finding an original may be tough not to mention expensive. Here is one aftermarket source that may help. http://fox-military.com/en/

Oh I wouldn't worry about it being called "Sportized just because its not in its original stock. That term get thrown around a lot. This is what I would call Sportized

 

[Johnbayou67]

Thanks Dave...
Cool site. Might think about a reproduction. I'm a little obsessive on detail.