Legitimate K98?

[K98Fan415]

Hey Mauser crew!

Excited to be in the market for my first K98! Came a cross this old/ beat-up K98 and am interested in buying it.
I've heard that there are fakes out there an want to make sure it's not that.

Can you advise on what you think based on the pics? Appreciate all your insight and help.

 

[K98Fan415]

More pics for reference. Appreciate all your feedback and help.

 

[biggymu]

The stock should be numbered internally, as is the hand guard. Can you disassemble it?

The bands being a different number can sometimes indicate a mismatched stock. While the bolt body is unmarked, the rear half matches so not too bad at this point.
Any numbers on the bottom at the trigger guard and mag well?

 

[PatickD]

This is my rifle lol.

When I purchased it, it was described “as all matching”.

Long and behold, it was not “all matching”.

Mismatched parts being:

•Rear barrel band
•Hand guard (unmarked, likely a reproduction imo)
•Bolt body has been scrubbed.

Here’s actually when I asked about the bolt body:

K98k - Possible Armorers Bolt Body - ID Request

Hi guys, I purchased a “matching” K98k. The listing had poor photos. Description said it was “all matching”. A few small parts are mismatched. The bolt made me pause for a minute though. Every single bolt part matches the actual rifle. Except the body and extractor. Is this a possible...

www.k98kforum.com

Ask away any other questions!

-D

 

[cowboy1873]

This is my rifle lol.

When I purchased it, it was described “as all matching”.

Long and behold, it was not “all matching”.

Mismatched parts being:

•Rear barrel band
•Hand guard (unmarked, likely a reproduction imo)
•Bolt body has been scrubbed.

Here’s actually when I asked about the bolt body:

K98k - Possible Armorers Bolt Body - ID Request

Hi guys, I purchased a “matching” K98k. The listing had poor photos. Description said it was “all matching”. A few small parts are mismatched. The bolt made me pause for a minute though. Every single bolt part matches the actual rifle. Except the body and extractor. Is this a possible...

www.k98kforum.com

Ask away any other questions!

-D

Interesting, I am also in the market for another and never heard of stamps on the stock and forend. Could you check yours? I have one currently and do not see anything. Wondering if my stock might be a replacement as well. Thanks

 

[K98Fan415]

Moderators seem like a very knowledgeable crew. Can you help and share your thoughts?=
Thanks!

@Loewe @mrfarb @Hambone @Pisgah @RyanE

 

[Zeppelin5000]

Moderators seem like a very knowledgeable crew. Can you help and share your thoughts?=
Thanks!

@Loewe @mrfarb @Hambone @Pisgah @RyanE

You got some good answers from some guys here, including the person that owns the rifle. Seems like you ignored what they had to say?

 

[luftpirate]

Looks completely illegitimate I saw this exact same one on Wish

 

[Loewe]

Really the main question is whether the stock is factory, dou is distinctive in that stocks are fairly sterile marking wise, but serialed with suffix internally.

They (dou) made a lot of rifles in 1943, well into the mm-block and nice examples are not rare, but they are desirable makers (I have always liked them, something intriguing about the Czech and Slovak makers, damn well made to the end...)

 

[PatickD]

The listing has every photo. Nonetheless, for questions that were asked:

 

[heavy_mech]

This is my rifle lol.

When I purchased it, it was described “as all matching”.

Long and behold, it was not “all matching”.

Mismatched parts being:

•Rear barrel band
•Hand guard (unmarked, likely a reproduction imo)
•Bolt body has been scrubbed.

Here’s actually when I asked about the bolt body:

K98k - Possible Armorers Bolt Body - ID Request

Hi guys, I purchased a “matching” K98k. The listing had poor photos. Description said it was “all matching”. A few small parts are mismatched. The bolt made me pause for a minute though. Every single bolt part matches the actual rifle. Except the body and extractor. Is this a possible...

www.k98kforum.com

Ask away any other questions!

-D

Don't know who originally listed this, but this shite right here REALLY pisses me off. What kind of possible bullshite answer can someone give for this? I didn't see the non matching parts?? This might be more d-baggery than actual faking.

 

[PatickD]

Don't know who originally listed this, but this shite right here REALLY pisses me off. What kind of possible bullshite answer can someone give for this? I didn't see the non matching parts?? This might be more d-baggery than actual faking.

Was a random GB seller. Definitely a fudd. Judging by how our conversation went on the phone.

In his listing he didn’t take down the rifle. I could tell it was a dou stock though. Since it wasn’t sanded and it was missing the Reich Adler.

•Didn’t show pictures of the mismatched barrel band.

•Hand-guard is odd. Since it’s not serialized. It doesn’t appear to be an armorers ones. Since there’s no proofs, that I can see. I think it’s probably just a repro.

•Didn’t show the bolt body serial number. But… showed the gas shield, cocking piece and safety. The matching parts to the receiver.

My mistake for not asking for extra pictures of the actual bolt body. But, imho when you have all the other parts of the bolt matching the receiver. I would just assume the body itself is matching. I originally got excited, since I thought it may of been an armorers bolt when I first received it. It wasn’t, so it is, what it is.

I don’t think the seller knew too much about K98k’s. At least when I spoke to him. The rear barrel band was obviously mismatched. That a monkey could’ve seen (if he pictured it). Hand-guard and bolt body would get a pass from me. If you weren’t familiar with these rifles.

I gamble a lot on listings with poor photos/descriptions. I’ve happen to have lost on the last two K98k’s. That were both described as “all matching”.

 

[cowboy1873]

Was a random GB seller. Definitely a fudd. Judging by how our conversation went on the phone.

In his listing he didn’t take down the rifle. I could tell it was a dou stock though. Since it wasn’t sanded and it was missing the Reich Adler.

•Didn’t show pictures of the mismatched barrel band.

•Hand-guard is odd. Since it’s not serialized. It doesn’t appear to be an armorers ones. Since there’s no proofs, that I can see. I think it’s probably just a repro.

•Didn’t show the bolt body serial number. But… showed the gas shield, cocking piece and safety. The matching parts to the receiver.

My mistake for not asking for extra pictures of the actual bolt body. But, imho when you have all the other parts of the bolt matching the receiver. I would just assume the body itself is matching. I originally got excited, since I thought it may of been an armorers bolt when I first received it. It wasn’t, so it is, what it is.

I don’t think the seller knew too much about K98k’s. At least when I spoke to him. The rear barrel band was obviously mismatched. That a monkey could’ve seen (if he pictured it). Hand-guard and bolt body would get a pass from me. If you weren’t familiar with these rifles.

I gamble a lot on listings with poor photos/descriptions. I’ve happen to have lost on the last two K98k’s. That were both described as “all matching”.

@PatrickD. Dang what is up with people being D-bags about this type of stuff. Dishonesty has always plagued the surplus world. I bought an Enfield from a shop and had it transferred. The shop said there was no import mark and of course there was an import mark clear as day on the barrel when I saw it in person. At this point there is nothing I can do and I bet he won't do anything since he got his money. He was able to hide it in the photos I guess. Too bad there is no certification system like they do with other types of commerce like the Sneakerhead world. I just looked and my k98 does not have any stamps on it so I bet it is not original or something.

 

[PatickD]

@PatrickD. Dang what is up with people being D-bags about this type of stuff. Dishonesty has always plagued the surplus world. I bought an Enfield from a shop and had it transferred. The shop said there was no import mark and of course there was an import mark clear as day on the barrel when I saw it in person. At this point there is nothing I can do and I bet he won't do anything since he got his money. He was able to hide it in the photos I guess. Too bad there is no certification system like they do with other types of commerce like the Sneakerhead world. I just looked and my k98 does not have any stamps on it so I bet it is not original or something.

Post your rifle on a new thread, for proper feedback.

 

[Loewe]

@PatrickD. Dang what is up with people being D-bags about this type of stuff. Dishonesty has always plagued the surplus world. I bought an Enfield from a shop and had it transferred. The shop said there was no import mark and of course there was an import mark clear as day on the barrel when I saw it in person. At this point there is nothing I can do and I bet he won't do anything since he got his money. He was able to hide it in the photos I guess. Too bad there is no certification system like they do with other types of commerce like the Sneakerhead world. I just looked and my k98 does not have any stamps on it so I bet it is not original or something.

The best "certification" in our world (German military rifle collecting) is to buy from reputable collectors known to us all, - many good collectors here buy & sell, the best rifles change hand collector to collector but relationships take time to build and there are no mulligans forgiven quickly (you screw someone, especially someone known to be legit and you can get outed worst than having flown on the Epstein pleasure express...)

Second best is buy off the trader here, not mulligans there either.