Question regarding 44 ASW bayonet.

[Luc]

An ASW 44 bayonet in the p block, is it always marked with 43 on the bayonet and 44 on the scabbard?

 

[AndyB]

Yes that is a 43/44asw combination which were produced in 1944 when the 44asw on production line were damaged and they reused older dies with 43asw, the single WaA519 on pommel speaks it clearly.

 

[Luc]

Thanks Andy.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Is this a p block?
Photo comes from http://k98.free.fr/

 

[grimlin13]

Not Andy but, yes that is p block. The link at k98free to that bayonet is the serial number and block letter ( 8992p).
As far as a p block always being a 43/44, that depends on which block (and possibly serial number) the double-date began at. Andy should know the exact beginning and end point.

 

[AndyB]

Grimlin already answered it, yes its a p block, the best expert on late war pieces is Slash, but i assume the 43asw dies was started to use in late of o range, also p is the first full range used with the 43/44asw combination.

 

[Luc]

Thanks guys.

I have already done some research on the internet and here on the forum. Starts in the N block and stops in the W block.
But is it possible to have a 44 asw bayonet in the P block that has 44 stamped on both the bayonet and the scabbard?

 

[AndyB]

The 43/44asw in n block would be nice to see, it could be too the letter was wrongly readed? But it could be some pcs remained prior serialing of o block. personally dont known about any 44/44asw in p block, anyway i have only 14 samples reported from 10000 range. Any exception could be done.

 

[Luc]

N block.
Bayonet and photos are not mine.

 

[Luc]

Same thing: bayonet and photos are not mine.
ASW 44 - P block.

 

[AndyB]

AS allways problem by reading of hand written letters, the upper one is r letter not n.
here are nn letters by 43asw http://k98.free.fr/43asw-4227nn.html
44asw, 3210p is real, and could be declared as remains of previous already 44asw marked bayonets. The switch was done in a bunch as Hoerster is largest producer, made in week 10000 bayonets. In case of this range i would look at the scabbard as there are reported can pcs, the pommel should have a single WaA519.
I have already 3016p and 1915p reported in 43/44asw configuration.

 

[Luc]

Ah, my mistake. Is there an example somewhere of what those letters look like?

What about the 44 P block?

 

[AndyB]

I have added the link of Arnaud site in previous mail, is nearly identical to p only the first vertical part is shorter.
The p block i already mentioned, its switch period, similar pieces could be exist as it was serialed later as was added the maker/date stamp, nothing strange, it was done in process of manufacturing.Similar other pieces could exist, anyway first 43/44asw already occured in late o range.

 

[Luc]

Thanks Andy for the explanation.
Greatly appreciated