Absolutely. These things were a crude measure, but no less neat of a curiousity. I was pretty excited to find some, they are relatively scarce.
Rifle Grenades for the Gewehr 98
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Cyrano4747
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Oh yeah, it's neat as heck. I'm just laughing at that being the measure that was used by the Imperial German army specifically, since they had such a hang up about accuracy in general.
krukster86
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Wow! Learned something new today. Thanks everyone for the education!
This turned out to be a pretty good week for me- I was able to work a deal on one of the less-frequently seen makers of the M17 launcher- AMA. I'll post the rest of my goodies when I get some time. I included a pic of a nice clean grenade I bought several months ago too.
The few I have come across over the years have been DMW (not DWM!), though Fichtel and Sachs also produced these. When comparing the three makers side-by-side, there are some neat differences. Storz did not picture an AMA, so I spliced in the two others from Storz's book for comparison purposes- You'll note that the cup is pretty universal, the apparatus for attaching and securing it to the rifle varies- Interestingly, the F&S might be the most bizarre, as the retainer threads onto the shaft, while the others are secured with a set screw. (DMW on the top and AMA's screw is on the side)
L to R (AMA, DMW and F&S)
Partial photo credit: Storz, Dieter. M 98 Rifle and Carbine: M 98 Firearms of the German Army from 1898-1918. Vienna, Austria: Verlag Militaria, 2006.
The few I have come across over the years have been DMW (not DWM!), though Fichtel and Sachs also produced these. When comparing the three makers side-by-side, there are some neat differences. Storz did not picture an AMA, so I spliced in the two others from Storz's book for comparison purposes- You'll note that the cup is pretty universal, the apparatus for attaching and securing it to the rifle varies- Interestingly, the F&S might be the most bizarre, as the retainer threads onto the shaft, while the others are secured with a set screw. (DMW on the top and AMA's screw is on the side)
L to R (AMA, DMW and F&S)
Partial photo credit: Storz, Dieter. M 98 Rifle and Carbine: M 98 Firearms of the German Army from 1898-1918. Vienna, Austria: Verlag Militaria, 2006.
joryfreeburg
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It was really neat to see these in person while walking around the show with you. Really neat photos with the quadrant and the grande installed in the Gew
Thanks Jory! It was great to finally meet. Looking forward to some pics of your acquisition from the show too. That thing was sweet!
Thanks Rick! The good news is that the two types I've handled don't require the screw removed to slide it off. They just prevent the two pieces from separating. The bottom piece tightens the shaft as you slide it up and keeps it on the rifle with tension.
Cyrus and I were chatting about these a while back. Some we have seen don't have the provision for a cleaning rod to slide through, requiring removal of it.
Oooh! A maker I've not seen or heard of. Looks like some minor differences in this one too. Thanks Wolfgang!
I had a short private tour of the (privately owned) museum on Sunday.
They have some great stuff for our studies!!! Two Radfahrgewehre, two colonial G98s, a couple of snipers ......., some experimental G88s with correct experimental bayonets, a late experimental G98, and some other very neat stuff. Some of the stuff I have never heard or read about. Stunning!
I have another visit planned for early June with full access to the rifles, etc. To photograph the most important stuff will probably take me 2-3 days. I already have permission to show everything here.
They have some great stuff for our studies!!! Two Radfahrgewehre, two colonial G98s, a couple of snipers ......., some experimental G88s with correct experimental bayonets, a late experimental G98, and some other very neat stuff. Some of the stuff I have never heard or read about. Stunning!
I have another visit planned for early June with full access to the rifles, etc. To photograph the most important stuff will probably take me 2-3 days. I already have permission to show everything here.
Here's one that I picked up a couple weeks ago-- It's an M14 rifle grenade with the limiter cup, but the fuse is apparently a later variant designed to be more sensitive to impact. I haven't found much more than that, but wanted to put the pictures up here in case anyone was familiar or knew of others. It's only the 2nd I've seen of this variety.
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PrayingMantis
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Nice find, Piotr! Looking forward to seeing the rest of the photos. Are all of them DMW? Also, feel free to start a new thread.
3xDMW. I write poor English. I would prefer to stay in this thread.
Thank you for taking the time to post these-- looking forward to seeing all three cleaned up. These are fairly hard to find in the US, so it's always nice to see them.
RoscoeTurner
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Don't let that bother you, I participate on two Russian language firearms pages and understand completely the difficulties.
