New purchase K98k DOU 44

Zeppelin5000 said:
..just the fact that it has a cleaning rod indicate it is drilled for one? Did late model K98's not have cleaning rods?
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No problems at all. Everyone learned at some point. Yes, if it has a rod that means it was drilled for one and probably has the rod nut in the stock. Kind of makes sense right? There are some great reference rifles in the picture reference section.
 
heavy_mech said:
Not to be a d*uche but it kills me that I keep seeing these mixed up/misrepresented. Považská Bystrica on the Váh river is where the factory actually was. The site is where they moved the old Georg Roth ammo plant from Bratislava. Banská Bystrica is like 80-100 km SE of the actual site. It's a real city but no rifles were assembled here. Sorry if I'm being redundant but I hate that I keep seeing this misinformation put out there.
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Was that posted on gunboards? It sounds like it came from there. There's been a lot of bad information over there lately
 
dou44 bb block

Stock in this serial range should be full stock with bayo lug and standard band config.
Stock should not be fitted for a cleaning rod though.

Kriegsmodell band config happens well after the bb block.
 
Stocks not drilled for cleaning rod were introduced about the "z" block, and were consistently used until the later "ee" block (as shown in "Kriegsmodell"). Guys, if you are going to dispense info at least get it right, even I'm confused reading this thread. Don't rely totally in your memory, I only know a few people that can do that.


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mrfarb said:
Stocks not drilled for cleaning rod were introduced about the "z" block, and were consistently used until the later "ee" block (as shown in "Kriegsmodell"). Guys, if you are going to dispense info at least get it right, even I'm confused reading this thread. Don't rely totally in your memory, I only know a few people that can do that.


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Sooo, was bb block earlier than the blocks you mentioned? Making these rod and stock bands accurate for a bb block? Also, couldn't it be possible that this stock was stamped H for whatever reason after production?
 
Zeppelin5000 said:
Sooo, was bb block earlier than the blocks you mentioned? Making these rod and stock bands accurate for a bb block? Also, couldn't it be possible that this stock was stamped H for whatever reason after production?
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Sorry, but the letter blocks ran "no suffix - z" and then "aa - ii" before 1945 production started. Your rifle would originally have had a stock not drilled for the cleaning rod, a transition to Kriegsmodell. The original stock would have been unnumbered though, and believe it or not do come up for sale now and again, meaning it could be properly restored to original configuration. It was made very late in 1944.

As stated by others, the dou factory never marked stocks with Eagle H - this marking was done at the factory, not later, and dou production never has Eagle H markings.
 
mrfarb said:
Stocks not drilled for cleaning rod were introduced about the "z" block, and were consistently used until the later "ee" block
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Was this a hard line? I seemed to think there was a transitional period if I recall correctly? Seems very few changes at any of the manufacturers happened with concrete certainty. If I'm way off base I'll eat it.
 
Thanks for the info everyone. All in all, I'm happy with the rifle. At least I now know some history on it. Seems hard to get a 98 that is 100% original. I was never really looking for one that was, just something nice that I can have as a collector and shoot every once in a while. Doesn't need to be museum quality. Who knows how that stock came about, that's history in itself! At least it is still time-period correct and not some random repro made in the 90's lol.
 
heavy_mech said:
Was this a hard line? I seemed to think there was a transitional period if I recall correctly? Seems very few changes at any of the manufacturers happened with concrete certainty. If I'm way off base I'll eat it.
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It wasn't a hard line, but it's pretty consistent. I've never seen an original "bb" block with a cleaning rod provision. Granted, I'm not one to draw lines in the sand, but every double alpha through "ee" I've seen has been this way, no cleaning rod. I think it may have started even before the "z" block. I spent a lot of time looking at rifles to come to this serial range, and it's pretty accurate statement - many people that photograph rifles don't specifically take photos of this feature, which makes tracking it difficult.
 
dou44 stock

Two things to check on your stock.

1. Presence of a 'c' stamped on the underside
2. Remove the buttplate and look for a date code and laminate supplier designation.
 
Thanks for the reply Bruce. I take it you saw my other post about my stock? I scoured my rifle for a 'C' stamp, but didn't see anything.... the only mark is that ' eagle with an H' stamp. When I took off my buttplate, I see no stamps or markings, but I do see something penciled..... I can't make anything of it. Maybe someone here can??
 

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Those markings are typical for stocks used on dot 1944 marked rifles, most likely what it came from.


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Yes, that's 44 actually. A common thing people think when the see this.


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Forgot to ask..... I could have sworn I read this somewhere in my research, but did Waffenwerke Brünn (DOT) ship/supply stocks at times to Waffenwerke Brünn, Bystrica (DOU)?
 
Zeppelin5000 said:
Forgot to ask..... I could have sworn I read this somewhere in my research, but did Waffenwerke Brünn (DOT) ship/supply stocks at times to Waffenwerke Brünn, Bystrica (DOU)?
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If it ever happened, it was very rare (I don't recall seeing one in all my time). And if it did, the stock would not have been sent from Werk I with an Eagle H marking on the side. The stock on that rifle was scrubbed of a serial number inside, you can still make it out.
 
mrfarb said:
If it ever happened, it was very rare (I don't recall seeing one in all my time). And if it did, the stock would not have been sent from Werk I with an Eagle H marking on the side. The stock on that rifle was scrubbed of a serial number inside, you can still make it out.
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Got it. :thumbsup:
 
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