1940 cqh 84/98 III bayonet

UPDATE: I missed a clear stamped '40 on the spine of the blade so that answers my earlier question. I've added a picture of the spine.

Seems like '40 cqh codes aren't all that common but it's a shame the scabbard doesn't match. Would there still be any collector interest in a 40cqh without the matching scabbard?


I picked up this 84/98 III bayonet with mismatched scabbard and frog recently. The blade is marked "cqh" but with no year code and WaA883 waffenamts. From what I've researched Clemen & Jung used WaA883 from '40-'41 and the "cqh" code from '41-'44 which leads me to believe the bayonet was made in '41. Is there any reason the blade would be missing the 41 year code that is seen on other cqh bayonets made in 1941?

The scabbard is marked Jos Corts 1938 and the frog Franz Brehme Walsrode 1942. I've included pictures of these as well.

I collect only matching S84/98 III bayonets as do many other collectors here. There could be an exception for me if the bayonet was extremely rare, in excellent condition and at a very reasonable price. I have not run across any like that yet. There are collectors who get any bayonet they find, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Your bayonet is in good condition, the scabbard is in same condition and the frog is very nice. So yes, there is a collector value for your bayonet. Just do not do anything to it like clean it. Do apply a light coat of gun oil to all metal, with a clean cloth only. Try not to handle with bare hands. Oils in your skin can etch blue in a very short time and be permanent.
If you plan to sell it, please keep the set together, may have been together for a long time, perhaps even since the end of WWII. I hate when sellers break up mismatched bayonets, selling the blade, scabbard, and frog separately. Kind of destroys any history it has.

Your piece was overhauled, visible on the reblueing, the grips are not proper as red plastic was used post 1943. There is a alu rivet in mouth area of scabbard, so i assume its a GDR refurbishment, confirms the waffled flashguard spine. Locking lug is probably too a replacement. 40cqh -Clemen und Jung Solingen would be good , anyway by postwar refurbish is the value lower. Frog is a LW type which is ok. What is interesting here is the HZa stamp on frog hook, which means the refurbishment was done post 1938 one time in period of DR, other then in GDR post 1945. So in reality the refurbished scabbard with HZa is probably more valuable as the GDR rework of 40cqh.

Thanks for the info here guys, I'm not sure I could have tracked down those details on my own. I wasn't able to get a good look at the scabbard before purchasing so I knew it was a gamble on if it would match but at least it still has some interesting history. Looks like I'm still on the hunt for a nice matching example and will probably end up letting this one go.

I am glad Andy looks at pics closer than I do. I never got past the one pic that is on the post or looked that close at it, guess I am getting lazy in my old age lol. If I had done more than a quick glance at the one pic, I would have noticed the aluminum rivet on the side of the scabbard. That and the waffled top on the flash guard from one of the other pics, screams GDR refurbishment Thank you Andy for remaining diligent in your assessment of bayonets.