rco45
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Nice kit! I cannot be sure but it almost looks like the tan paint was applied over green (in looking at some of the nicks and paint chips)? In a older thread, I believe there was mention of this happening on some very late "arr" marked kits. If so, then maybe a few of the first rco coded tins as well?
Cannot recall the thread or whom mentioned it. However, good chance it might have been "The Slasher". Either way, he just might know the score...
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I’m not sure I like the painted latches. Every textbook one the latches in blued metal.
can you take some photos in natural light?
can you take some photos in natural light?
Definitely repainted. Latches should be blued and it was clearly painted with the one latch open leaving behind a shadow on the can.
Frysk
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Photo’s of two rco45 kits from another forum, it’s described as found in “magic mud”?
Looks like the top layer of paint got lose and reveals the under layer.
About the latches, i made a screenshot of the rg34 blogspot, showing another case with the painted latches.
I’ll try to make some better photo’s today but this was about as good as the natural light came yesterday.
About the one latch thats open while painting the can, i thought it was a cool feature showing the hurry in the proces of making them..
Frysk
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Not sure about this one
also looks like some sort of paint/primer underneath the tan colour.
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Bottom lid, the inside has a ‘normal’ silver metallic look to it
This lid doesn’t look like there is a layer of paint/primer underneath the tan colour.The inside of the top lid and body of the kit have a yellowish colour to it, some kind of alloy? I don’t know. Looks like these parts have a black/green ish paint/primer underneath. Thats what it looks like to me, i’ll leave it to the experts.
About the latches, besides from the pictures on the rg34 blogspot, i couldn’t find any more rco45(or other tan for that matter) that featured the same painted latches.
It could very wel be a post war overpaint piece but i’m not fully convinced at this point,
I surely hope it isn’t lol
I do agree the paint colour is dead on and looks right. Just the matches are odd to me.
I just wanted to see some better pics in good natural light.
Say, isn't that a postwar spoon?View attachment 365920
Not sure about this one
Post #14 shows a similar kit that featuring paint underneath the tan colour.rco45
Noted flare gun collector Greg Baker shared pics of this rg34 to the old BCN group about 20 years ago. It took over two years of near constant badgering and some healthy trade bait but I was finally able to talk him out of it. Exhibits nothing but what I would consider storage wear and would...
View attachment 365921Bottom lid, the inside has a ‘normal’ silver metallic look to it
View attachment 365922View attachment 365923This lid doesn’t look like there is a layer of paint/primer underneath the tan colour.
The inside of the top lid and body of the kit have a yellowish colour to it, some kind of alloy? I don’t know. Looks like these parts have a black/green ish paint/primer underneath. Thats what it looks like to me, i’ll leave it to the experts.
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About the latches, besides from the pictures on the rg34 blogspot, i couldn’t find any more rco45(or other tan for that matter) that featured the same painted latches.
It could very wel be a post war overpaint piece but i’m not fully convinced at this point,
I surely hope it isn’t lol
Photo’s of two rco45 kits from another forum, it’s described as found in “magic mud”?
Looks like the top layer of paint got lose and reveals the under layer.
My guess is "magic mud" is a type of fine earth and plant material which, through deposition by water, encases items over time. It becomes a form of viscous clay which helps prevent oxidation... the mother of rust. If you have watched any YTube videos of "Team Gregarin" exhuming war material from river bottoms, embankments and bunkers in Russia and other places in the east, you will see just how "magic" some of this mud can be, after having encased material close to 80 years in a bog...
Imo yes
Frysk
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Thanks, I appreciate the input. I’m still curious what others have to say about the latches...
It’s amazing in what state some items are when it’s picked out of the Russian mud!
But i’m not sure if these kits made it that far east when produced in 45
Thanks for the conformation on the spoon.
Another key to preservation is if water is present, cold, clear and fresh are optimum. In much of western Europe are pine forests and sandy soil. With acidity from the pines, metal is turned a dry, rusty brown and often highly corroded. If items are found deep enough in the ground, it at least tends to cut off the oxygen. The high-latitude birch forests help minimize deterioration. Sometimes wooden crates are unearthed in such a good state of condition (although waterlogged), the wood is preserved as is the paint, markings ,etc. However, there would be a extensive preservation process to dry it out lest it go to ruin...It’s amazing in what state some items are when it’s picked out of the Russian mud! But i’m not sure if these kits made it that far east when produced in 45