1911 WMO Württembergische Gewehr 98

chrisftk

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Hi All,

I picked this one up recently. Cyrus and I had helped a guy on one of the Facebook groups identify this one a year or so ago. While talking to him I told him to let me know if he ever sold and I'd buy on the spot. A year later, I got a random message from the guy and he was ready. This is one that the extreme Gew98 nerds will appreciate. I've been looking a long time--probably one of the rarest variants of a Gew98, certainly harder to find than Navy and some of the more esoteric sterngewehre. I've never seen one for sale, but know of another couple out there in collections in the US.

Others can likely fill in more details, but Mauser had a special relationship with the Kingdom of Württemberg. As many might already know, the factory at Oberndorf once served as the state arsenal of Württemberg prior to being closed after unification and later purchased by the Mauser brothers. There was a history of contract work with the Kingdom (There were M71, M71B, Kar71 and 71/84 contracts, along with some small volume m79 and m83 revolver contracts with Württemberg), so an arrangement for direct procurement of Gew98s was not without precedent. The distinguishing thing about this Gew98 is that it has a Württemberg "antler" fire proof on the underside of the barrel and left receiver. There would have been one on the bolt as well, but it is mismatch. The rest of the rifle matches, including the correct Crown/W cypher (note-- crown W was for Wilhelm of Württemberg).

The rifle was counterbored at some point. There is an "E" stamping on the right side of the stock, which Sam theorized indicates Erfurt counterbored the rifle. There is no other depot work on the rifle, and only the bolt is m/m.

Here is the data sheet:

Receiver 4952
Barrel 4952 (BS 39)
Front Sight 52
Rear Sight Leaf: 52
Sight Slider 52
Ejector Box 52
Trigger Sear 52
Front Barrel Band 52
Rear Barrel Band 52
Trigger Guard 4952
Trigger Guard Screws 52, 52
Floor Plate 52
Follower 52
Stock 4952
Handguard 4952
Buttplate 4952
Bayonet Lug 52
Cleaning Rod
Bolt body: mm
Safety: mm
Cocking Piece: mm
Bolt shroud: mm
Firing Pin: mm
Extractor mm

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Another fascinating variation Chris! Great acquisition. So these Gew’s were more or less a prewar commercial variant produced in a limited contract run for the city of Würtemberg?
 
Another fascinating variation Chris! Great acquisition. So these Gew’s were more or less a prewar commercial variant produced in a limited contract run for the city of Würtemberg?
Thanks Rick!

No, these were military. The individual kingdoms were given wider latitude within the German Empire. Bavaria most of all, but Württemberg and Saxony to a lesser extent. In a broad and oversimplified sense, they maintained their own armies and only fell under imperial (aka Prussian) control during wartime. The army of Württemberg was the XIII Armee Korps in the Prussian Army, while the Bavarian and Saxon armies maintained more autonomy and distinctive structure.

Württemberg was the smallest kingdom, but WMO was also located within it's borders, hence the two did business in many instances.

Like the Amberg rifles for Bavaria, the orders for Württemberg were inspected and proofed with a distinctive mark instead of the Prussian eagle. Württemberg used the antler, much like Bavaria used the lion. (Saxony had their own wartime procurement channels such as Simson and the Sterngewehre produced at Dresden, but that's a story for another thread)

The stock cypher is also cool, as it has a c/W rather than the Prussian c/FW.
 
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Gorgeous rifle of Chris. You've been finding a lot of great stuff lately. So bravo to you sir. I know you and I were talking about this the other day. I did look it up in Storz book to refresh my memory. I didn't see any production numbers about them. I'm kind of wondering if John speed would know. You've been finding a lot of great stuff lately. So bravo to you sir.
 
Gorgeous rifle of Chris. You've been finding a lot of great stuff lately. So bravo to you sir. I know you and I were talking about this the other day. I did look it up in Storz book to refresh my memory. I didn't see any production numbers about them. I'm kind of wondering if John speed would know. You've been finding a lot of great stuff lately. So bravo to you sir.
Thanks Mike, definitely been a white whale for me.

Wow! Congratulations on a very rare rifle! Love the antler proof on the receiver.
Thanks Nick, maybe one day I'll stumble on a correct antler bolt. (Ha!)
What a special gewehr! Excellent writeup too. Congrats on the pickup.
Thanks Mike! All those lovely rifles I picked up from you must have attracted this one. :)
Wow very interesting! Excellent photos, thank you for sharing. Amberg bolt? Love the history behind Gew98s.
Yep, Amberg bolt. A correct Württemberg bolt would have an antler firing proof.
 
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This is a wonderful gun Chris! Glad you were able to pin it down. The original photos of this one really didn’t do it justice.
 
That’s a cool rifle Chris. It has an awesome look to it not mention the rarity
Thanks Jory, I've been lucky to find a lot of nice Gew98s, but this was a big item off the list.

First one I’ve see personally, what a cool rifle congrats Chris!
Thanks Clay! Definitely a scarce one, I just love the antler. Maybe the coolest fire proof I've seen.


This is a wonderful gun Chris! Glad you were able to pin it down. The original photos of this one really didn’t do it justice.
Thanks Sam, definitely was pleasantly surprised when it was nicer in person. Appreciate your help in validating my offer to the seller.
 
My 1917 Erfurt Luger is marked to the 122nd Wurttemburg Landwehr, MG company, weapon #4. No antlers. While a "Landwehr" or "Territorial" regiment, they saw more action from 1914-8 than most Army units. They ended the war in the Argonne...probably how this pistol came to the US. They walked home after the Armistice, arriving just before Christmas.
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A truly wonderful Gew in every way, i am glad that you were able to get it, finally! It's in the reference thread.

I am curious how many people here have seen Wurttemberg proofed Gews. This is perhaps only the fifth i have observed.
 
My 1917 Erfurt Luger is marked to the 122nd Wurttemburg Landwehr, MG company, weapon #4. No antlers. While a "Landwehr" or "Territorial" regiment, they saw more action from 1914-8 than most Army units. They ended the war in the Argonne...probably how this pistol came to the US. They walked home after the Armistice, arriving just before Christmas.
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Awesome luger! Thanks for sharing! Issuance of the pistol to a Württemberg it would not necessarily mean it was procured directly by Württemberg. The Prussian inspectors at Erfurt would have accepted and the pistol sent into be service.

The Gew above would have been accepted directly by Württembergische inspectors at WMO, hence the antler fire proof.
 
A truly wonderful Gew in every way, i am glad that you were able to get it, finally! It's in the reference thread.

I am curious how many people here have seen Wurttemberg proofed Gews. This is perhaps only the fifth i have observed.
Thanks Cyrus! I appreciate your assistance in working the deal
 
Or a better question, how many have seen the rare SS variations. This one gives you everything you want, will love you long time. What a jewel.
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Thank Rick, I needed that laugh. Somebody sure got stamp happy with that one ...
 
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