1916 Spandau Sterngewehr built on an Amberg Receiver

mauser1908

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Here's a neat one that I picked up recently. I owe a huge thanks to Cyrus for being the connection on this one. This post may be education to some of the newer guys who haven't encountered these. Generally, when dealing with Sterngewehren, most often you'll encounter rifles that were built using receivers from the facility that assembled the rifle. With that said, every manufacture that participated in this initiative also built rifles using receivers originating from other firms. This rifle is an example of this concept. During WWI, Amberg was actually a major player in supplying spare parts. Loose Amberg parts are rarely encountered today because they seem to have been largely consumed during the war. Frequently, they will also surface on random rifles. This phenomenon seems to have occurred largely in 1916.

Below is the link to an Erfurt Sterngewehr Cyrus owns. This example bears and Amberg trigger guard and receiver.

https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/amberg-1916-sterngewehr-1615-2.17543/

My rifle was also built using an Amberg receiver and potentially an Amberg manufactured stock. It's hard to say due to the jumbled look of the wrist acceptance. At Spandau, both standard production rifles and Sterngewehren have been observed with Amberg stocks. These will bear C/A wrist acceptance that's counterstruck directly over it by an inspection team at Spandau. This rifle also has a neat Simson manufactured trigger guard.

Receiver 9953 2
Barrel 9953 2, KR 260 D Sa
Front Sight 53
Rear Sight Leaf 53
Sight Slider 53
Ejector Box 67
Trigger Sear 9953 (Simson Supplied)
Front Barrel Band 53
Rear Barrel Band 53
Trigger Guard 9953
Trigger Guard Screws 58, 58
Floor Plate 53
Follower 53
Stock 9953
Handguard 9953
Buttplate 9953 (a)
Bayonet Lug 53
Cleaning Rod 53
Bolt Body 9953 2
Extractor 53
Safety 53
Cocking Piece 53
Bolt Sleeve 53
Firing Pin 53

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Sam, so glad this landed in your hands. It's a wonderful example and a rather scarce example of a bolt matching Spandau Sterngewehr. The fact that it's the first Amberg receiver I've seen on one makes it even cooler. I love these Sterngewehre with receivers from other arsenals-- the Erfurt Stern I got from Mike with a Spandau receiver or Cyrus aforementioned Erfurt with an Amberg comes to mind as well.

To my eye, I definitely think that the crown/z was applied over an Amberg crown/A. I can see enough of the outline to convince myself of it. Seems to be par for the course on a lot of these.

Either way I'm glad to see you and Cyrus landing back-to-back slam dunk rifles.
 
Thanks for the kind words, Sam. I’m so excited you got this one! Really it is an important piece for the information, not many bolt matching sterngewehre, but also a damn nice rifle.
It’s interesting to see another Simson or Saxon made triggerguard. Makes you wonder more about that relationship, with all the Spandau parts showing up in Dresden assemblies.
 
Sam, so glad this landed in your hands. It's a wonderful example and a rather scarce example of a bolt matching Spandau Sterngewehr. The fact that it's the first Amberg receiver I've seen on one makes it even cooler. I love these Sterngewehre with receivers from other arsenals-- the Erfurt Stern I got from Mike with a Spandau receiver or Cyrus aforementioned Erfurt with an Amberg comes to mind as well.

To my eye, I definitely think that the crown/z was applied over an Amberg crown/A. I can see enough of the outline to convince myself of it. Seems to be par for the course on a lot of these.

Either way I'm glad to see you and Cyrus landing back-to-back slam dunk rifles.

Thanks Chris, I appreciate the peer pressure on this one. I feel like I can see it too, hearing everyone’s thoughts is always of interest. I’ve always loved the ones that use receivers from different makers. I’m holding out that we’ll find a Hannover built on something other than a 1917 or ‘18 Spandau receiver.

That's a really nice rifle and neat bit of history I learned today as well. Congrats and great pictures!

Thank you!

Thanks for the kind words, Sam. I’m so excited you got this one! Really it is an important piece for the information, not many bolt matching sterngewehre, but also a damn nice rifle.
It’s interesting to see another Simson or Saxon made triggerguard. Makes you wonder more about that relationship, with all the Spandau parts showing up in Dresden assemblies.

Thanks Cyrus! It’s pretty interesting these trigger guards are showing up. You wouldn’t think such a small maker relatively speaking would be filling parts requirements for the arsenals. Maybe they were like Amberg. They made enough to be observed but didn’t undertake a massive production effort like Mauser and Spandau.
 
Thanks Chris, I appreciate the peer pressure on this one. I feel like I can see it too, hearing everyone’s thoughts is always of interest. I’ve always loved the ones that use receivers from different makers. I’m holding out that we’ll find a Hannover built on something other than a 1917 or ‘18 Spandau receiver.



Thank you!



Thanks Cyrus! It’s pretty interesting these trigger guards are showing up. You wouldn’t think such a small maker relatively speaking would be filling parts requirements for the arsenals. Maybe they were like Amberg. They made enough to be observed but didn’t undertake a massive production effort like Mauser and Spandau.
I'm interested in seeing if a 17 Erfurt Stern with an S&H or Pieper receiver pops up one day.
 
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