ab44 with type 2 Oiler.

[CanadianAR]

This arrived awhile ago, but never photographed.
Nice complete Ab44 with a type 2 Oiler without slot. Tool unmarked of correct type. Chain is interesting a point of debate maybe. I feel like the beads on the chain have been blackened, but others disagree. Could it be soot, or fouling? Maybe. But it doesn’t rub off. You can see at the leading and trailing edges of the bead that they are silver but the main body is dark grey to black. I like the look of it regardless.

 

[mrfarb]

I see that oiler in cnx kits a lot.

 

[CanadianAR]

Yes, it’s mainly a cnx Oiler, but they do show up in ab44 according to a members detailed records.

 

[mrfarb]

Sweet!

 

[grimlin13]

Nice kit.
I agree with you on the beads. Looks too even and smooth to be soot or fouling, but what the hell do I know? I am just a bayonet guy.

 

[dot]

A very nice matching 1944 Mundlos cleaning kit. Thanks for sharing.

This type of simplified milled oiler appeared in 1943 and this particular variant was manufactured only by the firms Gustav Appel and Mundlos. Personally, I consider the simplified milled oiler with both ends crimped in place, normally found in arr kits, as another variant.
The simplified oilers made by G.Appel and Mundlos are easily differentiated uppon close observation. Those made by G. Appel normally present the small cnx code markings on the tip, also are easily recognizable as the bottom protuding tip of the screw at the push button base was polished and this bottom base screw has no slot on their head. The Mundlos simplified milled oilers are recognizable as no markings are present and show a protruding tip at the push button base as the bottom tip screw was crimped in place without polishing, certainly another simplification in their production.
With regard to the cleaning chains with the folded wire or "paperclip" head, the theme is more complex due that as far as I know exist several manufacturers of this type of chain. Fortunatelly the Mundlos chains are easily recognizable as many present 67 links and their thin steel beads were manufactured in a cylindrical shape. Also in many of them you can see traces of a characteristic bluing or phosphating on the beads.

Antoni

 

[Slash]

Yes, it’s mainly a cnx Oiler, but they do show up in ab44 according to a members detailed records.

This type of simplified milled oiler appeared in 1943 and this particular variant was manufactured only by the firms Gustav Appel and Mundlos. Personally, I consider the simplified milled oiler with both ends crimped in place, normally found in arr kits, as another variant.

In my classification these are Type 2 oil bottles. The unmarked type are found in a number of late Hawig cans as well. Personally, I am not convinced they were made by Mundlos or Hawig; although they could have been. They may also have been subcontracted from another maker. Apparently some were made by Appel as a few are found with their cnx code stamped at the tip. The vast majority however are unmarked. These are the only rg34 oil bottles featuring a top bolt that can not be removed. There is yet another version of the Type 2 oil bottle with a "fat spout" and a slotted top bolt. Although slotted, the top bolt is unremovable like the smooth top example seen in the OP. Maker is unknown and have recorded very few of this type.

Regarding the simplified oil bottles with the crimping indentions on both ends as often found in Braunschweigische cans and also in rbl44 kits ...... In my own classification these are Type 3 oil bottles. These oilers are of an entirely different construction as compared with the Type 2 discussed above. They are however fairly consistent in appearance; unmarked with slotted top bolt, base assembly with slotted screw, and crude machining. Unlike the Type 2, the top bolt is removable on these oil bottles. Most of the Type 3 oilers have the standard spout while a smaller number have the "fat spout" fabricated from two pieces. My thoughts only ......

 

[Slash]

Thought some pics might be helpful for the discussion. In the pics below - left to right:

- Type 2 stamped cnx at the spout tip
- Type 2 unmarked
- Type 2 unmarked "Fat Spout" with slotted top bolt
- Type 3 unmarked
- Type 3 unmarked "Fat Spout"

Note the grinding to the bottom cap of the Type 2 cnx base as mentioned by Antoni. The others have their bottom cap rivet in place without grinding. The Type 3 oilers have a domed rivet in the bottom cap. Also note that the "Fat Spout" of the Type 2 is slightly larger than the version used on the Type 3. The last photo shows the different construction of the base assembly: right slotted - left unslotted. The unmarked Type 2 and the Type 3 utilize the slotted type screw. The cnx marked Type 2 as well as the odd Type 2 "Fat Spout" with slotted top bolt have the no-slot screw base assembly.

 

[Slash]

The "Fat Spout" oil bottles are quite interesting. Another photo to show the size difference of the spouts: Type 2 at left, Type 3 right. Another Type 3 oiler with "Fat Spout" disassembled. Note the crude machining and lack of finishing. Also of interest is the spout being fabricated from two separate pieces of material. All of the "Fat Spouts" that I have examined were made in this fashion.

 

[Scharf]

Hello,

Just found another one of these. Looks like another unmarked type 2