ERFURT 1915 Mauser M98

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20151229_181207 (Large).jpg I bought a custom hunting rifle 2nd hand that was built on an old Mauser action. It is an M98 (stamped on the side) with ERFURT 1915 and then 1920 stamped again with the serial number 57. I was told it was a small ring Mauser that was produced for sporting use, although what I understand from my reading is that the ERFURT factory was a state factory that made military rifles.

I would really like to know more about this action, which is now 100 years old. Does anybody know more about the additional 1920 stamp and the serial number 57 batch? 20151229_181142 (Large).jpgAny info would be greatly appreciated.
 
The 1920 date means it was officially accepted in to the Reichswehr (only 100.000 men) of the Weimar Republic after WW1.
 
It should say "Kar.98" on the siderail, though the German script can be confusing to read sometimes. The "1920" is a property marking, just means it was government property during the 1920 round up, the link feldmütze posted will give the full explanation.

As for the Erfurt arsenal, you are correct, they did not make sporting arms until the war was over, and then only as an expedience to keep workers employed (and not rioting, which did happen when they did close them or when inspected by the IAMCC - also the "hope" to retain some capacity for making arms immediately after the war.. Versailles would remove any illusions of this later... Germany 1919-1923 was a chaotic place, all due to the Entente savage "peace" and violation of the armistice terms, - they more than anyone created Hitler and WWII), this rifle was once a Kar.98a, basically a small ring Modell98 carbine. Later it was sporterized for hunting or sporting, which they are excellent for, as they make very light and handy rifles when the stocks are cutdown.

As for the commercial sporters Erfurt did make after the war, they are elusive, they are largely scrubbed 98a receivers built up with modified 98a components, often they have simple designs on the receiver, usually carry the Imperial fireproof of Erfurt, - often with commercial proofing also, the siderail will have the Kar.98 removed and replaced with either Gwf.E (Gewehrfabrik Erfurt) or Rw.E (not sure what the Rw stands for, as they are for export, perhaps Rifleworks Erfurt?). Most will have "GERMANY" stamped into them, as most were probably sold for export. Danzig modells are far more common, and better manufactured, but these are not of much interest to military rifle collectors, - and your rifle is not one of these. Danzig's are more common because they lasted longer, as Danzig was removed from Germany and the arsenals fate not quickly decided upon, they made them longer as export was possible as Danzig was a League mandate. They even did small arms work for others, South America, Mexico and Poland, - Erfurt fate was never in question, it was later turned to mostly commercial pursuits, broken up into sections, the largest part became part of Deutsche Werke, a government held corporation. They would make some small arms, pistols and air rifles, probably covertly small arms. It is no coincidence that ERMA was important in the early rearmament programs.. like any aggrieved victim of aggression, a wrongly convicted inmate in prison, for a non-crime or wrongly convicted, they will be the most difficult to control, - and Germany felt this way after WWI and especially Versailles, and cheated on the terms of the treaty at every opportunity, rightfully so imo. Unfortunately things like resentment and fear lead to Hitlers.

View attachment 113280 I bought a custom hunting rifle 2nd hand that was built on an old Mauser action. It is an M98 (stamped on the side) with ERFURT 1915 and then 1920 stamped again with the serial number 57. I was told it was a small ring Mauser that was produced for sporting use, although what I understand from my reading is that the ERFURT factory was a state factory that made military rifles.

I would really like to know more about this action, which is now 100 years old. Does anybody know more about the additional 1920 stamp and the serial number 57 batch? View attachment 113279Any info would be greatly appreciated.
 
You guys are amazing. That is very interesting info. Thank you. It still has the Kar98 on the side, so it was never intended for sporting use. I guess I'm pushing my luck, but I was wondering if there is any info on the serial number 57. How large were the runs of each serial number?
 
If you take pictures of the serial and right receiver, - the barrel coding on the barrel (assuming it is the original barrel), they might tell you something. But very little. With the Gewehr98 such details will tell you for sure who made the rifle (name across the top is not always who assembled the rifle, - usually it does, but surprisingly often it doesn't), roughly when (with a suffix we can roughly extrapolate when a rifle was made during a given year by comparing known ranges and events, the acceptance can also offer clues); the barrel code and fireproof can suggest whether the barrel is original. With the 98a, only Erfurt made the 98a 1915-1917, so less can be revealed by such details.

Serial runs were 0001-9999, then a suffix was added and the sequence ran again, 0001 a-9999 a, etc... (some apparently ran 0001-10000, etc... but only a couple are confirmed with this practice). The letter under this "57" will tell what "block" the rifle falls in, and roughly when, by dividing the known ranges by months, which isn't a perfect solution, most years had issue that probably impacted monthly totals, - 1915 was the first full year of war, demand for rifles probably took sometime to implement into results, changes at the factory into rifles, so earlier in the year production was probably smaller than later months, - one would think monthly totals increased dramatically as each month progressed. Some years, like 1917 & 1918, there were work stoppages, strikes and riots, mostly in Berlin (DWM and Spandau were directly influenced by such riots), but Saxony was also effected due to its industrialized nature. Erfurt is in Thüringen, but close enough (and industrialized enough) to be impacted.

Anyway, one needs to look at the whole picture in context to history to guess at such things, but it is all a guess as most of the original documents were lost (destroyed) in WWII and its aftermath.
 
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