Some nice parts I have accumulated over the years (or decades)

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8X57

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Some of my trigger guards, followers and floorplates, as well as a milled/welded closed byf band and a gqm 44 buttplate that still has the red paint inside butt was painted black - should take a wire wheel to that. Also, three nice bayo lugs, one 280 no serial # and two WaA 519? one with a triangle, the other with a circle mark and no serial #. I also have other armorer or no serial # parts kicking around. Always snooping at the shows for more stuff!

Guards are (l to r) 214 matching follower and plate, LU with qnw plate and lxr follower, 214, 214, 214 w/byf plate, 214 #d, SVW with byf plate, 135 #d with byf/135 plate (Israeli park'd), byf with byf plate, byf with qnw plate. Followers are 214, 135, lxr and plain. Couple other byf #d plates. Band is solid milled with welded bottom, rare I am told and only one I have seen, then the lugs.

If anyone knows which manufacturer used the 519 lugs I would appreciate you letting me know.

Thanks,
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What ?? No E/4 parts? lol. Nice batch of parts. I too have a good parts collection. Mostly bcd or bSw stuff though.

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8X57 said:
If anyone knows which manufacturer used the 519 lugs I would appreciate you letting me know.
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You can found the WaA519 marked lugs on the ce K98s late production : I have one w letter block assembled with a bcd4 receiver and lsr mount that has this lug , another one similar is described in the Kriegsmodell book ( I don' t remember the letter block , but it's for sure a late one too).
I have envy for your spare parts collection , I see a lot of useful pieces ;-)
 
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If anyone knows which manufacturer used the 519 lugs I would appreciate you letting me know.
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WaA519 covered the Solingen area which included the bulk of the bayonet manufacturers. My depot repair has a 519 lug on the armorers stock. I can't recall seeing many on factory rifles, so I'd guess most were supplied as spares to the depot system.
 
Yes, I agree, but which maker?

There are several possibilities, could be Richard Herder (clc), they used e/519 starting in 1942 (e/883 earlier in 1942) and made firearm components (MG42, G43, MP44, probably other stuff); could be Eickhorn (cof), though less likely, or E.Pack (cul) too, who made some rear sight sleeves.

My bet is on E.Pack, but it could be a number of the firms, several of which subcontracted firearm components during the war, but unless we can find a code along with a waffenamt, like with the E.Pack rs sleeves, we might never know for sure. There are quite a few possible firms in the Solingen area.
 
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I looked through BBOTW and couldn't find any rifles with that lug marking. This is the surface of my collection, also have lots of safetys, trigger assys, bands of all types, some other small stuff. Has come in handy to rebuild a couple bubba'd rifles over the years. Used to be a lot easier to find too, though :facepalm:....
 
I have recorded the BL on 3 other rifles, one bcd/4 (JPS final), bcd/43 and a byf/44 k block. Offhand I am not sure if any were original parts to the rifle, one had a large "O" on the opposite side, no other markings that may identify the maker shown.

The only one that showed a potential lead is attached, almost looks like something is stamped under the waffenamt, below it, but could be anything or nothing at all. This one is a picture from a GB auction from June 2011, bcd/4 2192 w (e/37 final). Picture is one of the auction pictures.
 

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Does anyone know where the stamped trigger guards with E/214 and no code were made by? My ar43 has one, numbered to the rifle, but I am unsure of the manufacturer of the trigger guard.
 
Probably the same as those marked LU/qnw, neither known with certainty, though probably the same maker.

There was a thread on this forum that speculated, with some evidence provided by Jon Speed, that the maker is Lubeca, some sort of tin maker, makes cans and packaging today. Seek it out.

As I recall the problem with the identification was that they are not in the Lübeck area, which the waffenamt e/214 covered. They had factories elsewhere, but none that we could find in the area that e/214 would have covered.

Generally it had been assumed that the firm responsible was a firm tied to or closely connected to DWM, like Mauser was (DWM had an ammunition facility in the area of Lübeck); Mauser and DWM made early experiments with stamping technology, primarily in aircraft MG's at the DWM Posen works, it was a joint venture but it could have involved other facilities and expedients. Mauser was one of the few firearm firms that did research extensively during the war. (the connection for me is not because stamping technology was a MO thing, others were leaders in the field before MO, Grossfuss and Merz Werke for example... only that the stamped TG/FP thing seem to be related to MO work and the products are similar.)
 
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So the LU guard is a bit rarer as I thought then? It came on a ar 43 4 digit c block rifle that had been completed by Sauer as it had 280 proofs and ce marked barrel though with 37 WaA on the barrel. The right receiver WaA was 280 as were those on the matching #s bolt assy, rear sight assy and trigger. The follower was a lxr and the floorplate was a qxn which was mismatch serial #. I didn't think that ce was using stamped that early, plus the fact it was mismatched floorplate. In a cut-down stock with 280 proofs (I think) and likely Kriegsmarine as there is a N and # on the left hand take down disc.
 
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