ditch68
I Like Bunnies
Hey, what the hell's the matter with being drunk on Tuesday?
Anyway, I have a matching midwar bcd bolt if you need it.
Jeff
bcd 41 - Salvageable? And another question.
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Hey, what the hell's the matter with being drunk on Tuesday?
Anyway, I have a matching midwar bcd bolt if you need it.
Jeff
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
Astrawerke (lower case l and eagle/1) were making parts long before '42. Lots of parts. By 'action' I'm guessing the receiver right side? Should be like l, e/1, e/749x3. That means Astrawerke supplied the receiver and bcd (Gustloff) did finishing and fitting operations (e/749 for those inspected operations). That barrel could be straightened a lot more than people might suspect with a press. There are photos of workers doing final straightening with a handwheel press. Why not fix it?
FWIW, I fixed a brand new Romanian cold hammer forged barrel someone dorked up in a press. Got it really straight with a bit of patience and blocks and a press. No issues shooting it. Almost every coworker said 'you're not going to try and straighten that are you?'
racerlee
Well-known member
Interesting rifle you got. If I had some kind of documentation that it got ran over by a Sherman tank or something like that from a war veteran/family than I would definitely leave it the way it is. But if you think it can be fixed and maybe straighten out the barrel, then why not!
If I had it, it would be hard for me to fix it. I don't think I would have the know how to do it.
I do wonder how it ended up that way.
If I had it, it would be hard for me to fix it. I don't think I would have the know how to do it.
I do wonder how it ended up that way.
heavy_mech
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Got a phone number for the owner who consigned it to the auction. Will call them on Monday.
Front band couldn't be removed without doing some straightening of the barrel.
Spoke to the consignor of the rifle today.
Very friendly 80 y.o. gentleman.
His uncle shipped the rifle home at some point after the war. Not run over by a tank or any other exciting combat related story.
One of 10-15 he remembers being shown behind a door in his uncles home when he was a child.
He was very happy to hear that someone was making the effort to repair it. Something he had always wanted to do but did not have the knowledge/skill.
The other bent rifles from behind the door were give to his brothers (he is one of 15 siblings) and he will ask them if any still remain in the family.
Story told by uncle who shipped them home was that he was required to remove the bolt and bend the barrel before shipping. Uncle was not allowed to ship working rifles.
This is contrary to what I have seen and read elsewhere but the uncle has long passed, so this version is the 'truth' of this rifles history.
He asked me to mail him a picture of the rifle when the renovation is complete. He has no cell phone and has never owned a computer.
I pass by his town quite often when I am visiting family, so I may hand deliver it. May even take the rifle with me.
Very friendly 80 y.o. gentleman.
His uncle shipped the rifle home at some point after the war. Not run over by a tank or any other exciting combat related story.
One of 10-15 he remembers being shown behind a door in his uncles home when he was a child.
He was very happy to hear that someone was making the effort to repair it. Something he had always wanted to do but did not have the knowledge/skill.
The other bent rifles from behind the door were give to his brothers (he is one of 15 siblings) and he will ask them if any still remain in the family.
Story told by uncle who shipped them home was that he was required to remove the bolt and bend the barrel before shipping. Uncle was not allowed to ship working rifles.
This is contrary to what I have seen and read elsewhere but the uncle has long passed, so this version is the 'truth' of this rifles history.
He asked me to mail him a picture of the rifle when the renovation is complete. He has no cell phone and has never owned a computer.
I pass by his town quite often when I am visiting family, so I may hand deliver it. May even take the rifle with me.
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
Yup.
I had a WWI KAR98a that had the stock badly damaged by shrapnel.
Did just enough work to stabilize the damage and keep it from getting worse.
Had a couple of hours over the last few days, so got started on this project.
Spent and hour or so on the barrel and today I put a couple hours into the stock and bottom metal.
Could be re-assembled now, but the pieces need a bit more careful work to be "just right".
Will probably leave the stock clamped for several days. The bottom metal came out surprising easy. 75+ of the stock being wedged apart and it has taken on a new shape.
That is why I used my bench vise to clamp it. Broad surface with a good compression. Those bicycle inner tubes are also pulled very tight.
Spent and hour or so on the barrel and today I put a couple hours into the stock and bottom metal.
Could be re-assembled now, but the pieces need a bit more careful work to be "just right".
Will probably leave the stock clamped for several days. The bottom metal came out surprising easy. 75+ of the stock being wedged apart and it has taken on a new shape.
That is why I used my bench vise to clamp it. Broad surface with a good compression. Those bicycle inner tubes are also pulled very tight.
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heavy_mech
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Excellent work! Looks like you really got the hang of this. Can't wait to see the final product. 
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
I hear and understand you. However there's no provenance that this even happened in theater. Here's the bitch. I'm getting really tired of all the 'you're destroying history' shite. What phucking history?? Baby momma ran the rifle over in the driveway in 1987 cuz he was leaving her? What's the provenance on that? Let him fix the phucking rifle already. Sorry if I see so pissed off but it's like the shite is already broke. Hitler didn't break it. Patton didn't break it. Stop already Tell me how everyone decided this was an in theater occurrence.
RHA I'm not hating on you specifically but I keep seeing this bullshit on so many gun sites.... 'you're destroying history'. What history??? Cutting up a 60 dollar Mosin?
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heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
I'm so pissed I'll double down on this. Someone please tell me why we NEED to leave this rifle broken?? Serious as a heart attack. That could have been broken in the driveway last year.
