Help with explanation of bolt markings?

Funkel

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This bolt goes with a 90% matching rifle, how can I tell if it's armouror replaced? The 2 unmatched parts on the rifle are band spring (unmarked) and lower band is un serialed waffen amt 623 marked, The stock does also have a proper Armouror repair on its base near but plate. rest is Waa 63 or 63 waf marked.The bolt handle has S/42 same as rifle With 63 waf amt, with serial 5321 Several other bolt parts have 21 but with different waff amts. It does have script S under Receiver with '44'(Rifle is S/42 1937) and another similar script S on bolt extractor With 21 waf amt . It has K-167 on firing pin With another plain S on other side. The cocking piece is no'd 5321 like the bolt handle. Has possibly a 1 on it's side below the serial and an S underneath it. (1 Looks similar to mark on rear of sightleaf Z or 1?), The safety Latch is numbered 48 With no waf amts but a strange script L an I or F or just Odd Proof mark/Symbol on the front of it. The Bolt Shroud is numbered 21 on the top rear with no waf amts but what looks like numbers just next to the serial 21 but right on the lip k137 or k167? Underneath It has script M with N and a small x on the M? The small lug piece Has a strange waf amt with maybe 214 on it? Anyone have any Ideas? ANY INFO? Cheers.
 

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This bolt goes with a 90% matching rifle, how can I tell if the bolt is armory replaced? The 2 unmatched parts on the rifle are band spring (unmarked) and lower band is un serialed waffen amt 623 marked, The stock does also have a proper armory repair on its base near but plate(1 piece has fallen out since). rest is Waa 63 or 63 waf marked.The bolt handle has S/42 same as rifle With 63 waf amt, with serial 5321 Several other bolt parts have 21 but with different waff amts. It does have script S under Receiver with '44'(Rifle is S/42 1937) and another similar script S on bolt extractor With 21 waf amt . It has K-167 on firing pin With another plain S on other side. The cocking piece is no'd 5321 like the bolt handle. Has possibly a 1 on it's side below the serial and an S underneath it. (1 Looks similar to mark on rear of sightleaf Z or 1?), The safety Latch is numbered 48 With no waf amts but a strange script L an I or F or just Odd Proof mark/Symbol on the front of it. The Bolt Shroud is numbered 21 on the top rear with no waf amts but what looks like numbers just next to the serial 21 but right on the lip k137 or k167? Underneath It has script M with N and a small x on the M? The small lug piece Has a strange waf amt with maybe 214 on it? Anyone have any Ideas? ANY INFO? Cheers.

Ok so the Only thing (I think) is the K-167 on the pin is early pre eagle waffen amt ? Here's some pics of barrel marks other weird stock marks. How can I tell if it's re-barrelled? it looks original, has matching serial on the side. But the Barrel has a fair few stamps and No's I've searched and searched and have no idea It has o184 numbered on it, doesn't match any other rifle numbers.. The z or 1 on the rear middle of the sight leaf is an odd mark it only has a similar one on the back of the cocking piece of unmatched bolt. But also the stock has some weird marks. There is a 12 In front of floor plate(on stock) and a 12 oddly marked on the barrel with some sort of wax marker or possibly paint? It doesn't rub off? I can't find out anything on most of the marks on the barrel, bolt, under the receiver, and a few on the stock(Added some stock pics). There is an L and maybe an small f in the sling cutout. And a P stamped in stock (between barrel bands.) I posted the whole rifle a few years ago and with help worked out It was Early Luftwaffe Issue Matching early Y ser S/42 1937 Lam stock, Which looks like it were re issued post war with swivel sling loops. Been unable to find out anything ever since Original post. It may have also been a late ss acquired rifle with odd marks under pistol grip looks like Waf amt at top and skull with x below it at the bottom Badly worn (could be rifles or swords) , and on Left side of Pistol grip has an upside down triangle with some mark in it (Badly worn) To the right looks like possibly the ends of crossbones. It's an Enigma Rifle by the looks. It was sold to me for $500 as a possible R/C Capture and little info on where or when it came to Australia, it has seen some really Heavy use(yet still dead accurate). Looks Like several psychopaths have had it. So many marks and heavy use yet nearly all parts match? The upper handguard matches the barrel/rec+stock yet the lower band and spring do not match? I would think if the spring were lost in battle the hand guard would also be lost with nothing to hold the band in place? Band Un serialed but waf 623 marked and spring totally unmarked. The Un matched band also has a schrapnel chunk in it suggesting period replacement. But why would they replace it with a swivel sling one during the war? Did ss volunteers use different slings? Or is this just always post war attached? Ps. the first lower band is just one I found on the net found it curious mine is the 2nd with dark stock and sling attached. Cheers in advance for any info.

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Here's 1 more pic of Bolt Extractor Ring Has 21 With some weird Imperial Crown proof. Certainly a mix n match bolt But all 21 Marked except the safety latch. Would it be right to say this I or L 44 under receiver Is a factory rework mark? It Has Roman Numeral II and an upside down Y. Anyone know what the Weird script S looking thing is? I'll Ad some more pics of the stock marks aswell. You can Just see the Waa63 under pistol grip but what is the weird skull and X mark? I haven't seen it on another.
 

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Moving this to the K98k section so you can get some responses. I can tell you that the bolt you show photos of is an armorers bolt, along with many of the parts it's made up of.
 
As Farb said, armorer bolt parts and they look numbered properly for an earlier rework. The rifle has been through a bit, and the swivels and work done to the stock are not period though.
 
As Farb said, armorer bolt parts and they look numbered properly for an earlier rework. The rifle has been through a bit, and the swivels and work done to the stock are not period though.

Are the 21 stamps an Armouror code? or mix n match parts give that away? So many different marks were trippin me out. Not easy to try find info on the net on 20 different proofs! Any ideas on the receiver Stamps Or weird Script S? And yeah she's seen better days but smells n shoots great! The bore still has rifling but pitted pretty bad and opposite of shiny and bright! haahaa. Dead accurate at 100m though. Cheers.
 
As Farb said, armorer bolt parts and they look numbered properly for an earlier rework. The rifle has been through a bit, and the swivels and work done to the stock are not period though.

Oh also any idea on who used these swivels? Or if it's original barrel?
 
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Moving this to the K98k section so you can get some responses. I can tell you that the bolt you show photos of is an armorers bolt, along with many of the parts it's made up of.

How do you tell it's an armourers bolt? And How can I tell if it's the original barrel? Also what do you think of the markings on the stock? Cheers, sorry so many questions but this rifle seems really odd compared to others I see.
 
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