french collectors need some help about a stock

[toulon44]

hello all

it's now 2 weeks that this 98k stock is discussed on hour forum and we haven't yet the definitive answer about it, we guess it's comming from russia but no more , it looks like to a kriegs modell (neither bayonnet mount nor cleaning rod hole ) just a scew hole but with a band spring .
help 'll be welcome
thanks in advance
bernard

 

[S/42]

Bernard,

It is simply a regular stock that has the bayonet bar cap removed (drive cross pin out, pull or hit the bayonet bar off). The hole is for the cleaning rod. Simply put a bayonet bar cap back on and voila! Normal stock. Someone just took it off when they poorly cleaned the stock.

Also, that ZF41 cut on the left side is fake - and a bad one at that. Rear shape is completely wrong.

And yes, it was a Russian capture stock.

 

[toulon44]

Bernard,

It is simply a regular stock that has the bayonet bar cap removed (drive cross pin out, pull or hit the bayonet bar off). The hole is for the cleaning rod. Simply put a bayonet bar cap back on and voila! Normal stock. Someone just took it off when they poorly cleaned the stock.

Also, that ZF41 cut on the left side is fake - and a bad one at that. Rear shape is completely wrong.

And yes, it was a Russian capture stock.

thanks but the bayonet hole is not drilled this is just a screw hole for a KM cap screw and also there is no cleaning rod stop in the stock here is our problèm .

 

[S/42]

thanks but the bayonet hole is not drilled this is just a screw hole for a KM cap screw and also there is no cleaning rod stop in the stock here is our problèm .

No, it is 100% normal, except the lack of cleaning rod retainer nut - more on that in a minute.

The bayonet bar is held on by a pin that goes left to right. It is not screwed on.

I will disassemble a stock and show you.

 

[S/42]

Here is a sequence of images removing the bayonet cap from a stock. Unfortunately, I used a Yugoslavian raped stock, which means the cap is set back about 1 cm (only they know why they did it), but you get the idea. The FORWARD hole in the side is the German hole (not the rear one, which is the Yugoslavian idiotic hole). Not strictly the best way to do it, but it is a junker Yugo reworked stock, so I am not too concerned about damaging it. Pictures show from assembled, to cap off, to reassembled.

Also, your stock is a dou (Brunn II, Bystricia, Czechoslovakia) made stock, made late-1944 where the hole for the cleaning rod is either not drilled at all, or drilled and no retainer nut put into the stock. I note that your barrel channel has the indent where the nut was GOING to be but never done. These stocks aren't very common, and were NEVER ZF41 stocks, so it's kind of a shame this was done to it.

Please excuse my toes and floor in the shots - did this in a few minutes in the gun room

 

[povstalec]

Sorry but It is´t Bystricia, It´s Považská Bystrica (now in Slovakia) code dou, and the dot code is Brno (now in Czech republic) just for info...

 

[toulon44]

many thanks !!
now it's clear for me and i'll share this info with the french forum where this stock was discussed

ber