From some of the other links posted, it appears to be refurbished 1930s German ammunition. The rounds were disassembled, checked, and then re-primed with non corrosive primers. There is some evidence that it was manufactured for the Romanian air force and was captured by the Russians, where it has sat for years before Techcrim purchased it and refurbished the rounds. The brass is 1930s manufacture.
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8mm Mauser Ammo - Ventura Munitions
- Thread starter Jethro897
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From some of the other links posted, it appears to be refurbished 1930s German ammunition. The rounds were disassembled, checked, and then re-primed with non corrosive primers. There is some evidence that it was manufactured for the Romanian air force and was captured by the Russians, where it has sat for years before Techcrim purchased it and refurbished the rounds. The brass is 1930s manufacture.
johnstanley
Member
I have some of the original boxes of this marked in Romanian and dated from Polte in 1939. They have no headstamp. Some sources say it was made as sterile ammo for the Spanish civil war and then diverted to Romania. The boxes I have, although 78 years old, are still surefire and accurate at the range. I think this ammo with updated non corrosive primers would be good to use and I may get some.
I have some of the original boxes of this marked in Romanian and dated from Polte in 1939. They have no headstamp. Some sources say it was made as sterile ammo for the Spanish civil war and then diverted to Romania. The boxes I have, although 78 years old, are still surefire and accurate at the range. I think this ammo with updated non corrosive primers would be good to use and I may get some.
If that's the true origin of these rounds, it is a super interesting history. I cleaned my rifle assuming it was corrosive just to be safe, but nothing is even showing hints of rust after a few weeks, so I think what some people have said, that these are re-primed with the 5.5mm non-corrosive primer is correct. It has been a very accurate round so far and I'm going to give it another run now that I know that it probably won't blow me up.
Houstonsagman
Member
This ammo is non corrosive as it says on the box. Though I think it shoots better than the Prvi stuff, it is still lower in velocity(<2500fps) and power than wartime production. I like the bullet profiles but to be honest, if I can’t reload it, it’s not really worth it to me! The Prvi ammunition, though very weak, still has nice reloadable brass and excellent bullets. I have about 500 rounds of that stuff I plan to unload and up the powder charge. After that I can reload that brass. If you truly want to experience the 8x57IS they way it was intended ( given your rifle is in good shape), is to load your own ammunition. I’m currently using German made RWS brass with 200gr SMK bullets loaded up to perform the way a respectable 8mm should! I’ll be using a Nosler 185gr bullet with a Czech 98k to hunt hogs later this year. The 8mm is a thumper for them and deer!
WilliM1940
Senior Member
I bought some strictly for the projectile. The ogive seems to match s.S. rounds. I haven't pulled down any of it yet, but if the projectile is German, if the powder is the same flake as WWII German and matches the charge load, and in all other dimensional respects it is German, then it is a bargain.
My thinking is the ammo could not leave Russia as surplus military, I think that is all restricted now. So re-manufacture is a work around. If non corrosive, a factory has simply done what I have wanted for a long while, non corrosive s. S., and I was willing to do it, but no projectiles were to be had. Thank you Putin.
Look at the rear sight on your K98k. It is quite typical for the imprints on the ramp to record up to 900 yards. That is significant, very few projectiles have the B.C. of that German round, the 7.62 NATO is only recently adopted bullets of this type to match this loading for long range. The 8mm was ahead of its time, perhaps only matched by the Swiss 7.5 x 55. I have read that American troops discarded M2 ball for armour piercing, because they were disadvantaged, out ranged by that bullet.
I want the real deal for my K98k, not a decent hog load....and steel at 1000 yards ideally.
My thinking is the ammo could not leave Russia as surplus military, I think that is all restricted now. So re-manufacture is a work around. If non corrosive, a factory has simply done what I have wanted for a long while, non corrosive s. S., and I was willing to do it, but no projectiles were to be had. Thank you Putin.
Look at the rear sight on your K98k. It is quite typical for the imprints on the ramp to record up to 900 yards. That is significant, very few projectiles have the B.C. of that German round, the 7.62 NATO is only recently adopted bullets of this type to match this loading for long range. The 8mm was ahead of its time, perhaps only matched by the Swiss 7.5 x 55. I have read that American troops discarded M2 ball for armour piercing, because they were disadvantaged, out ranged by that bullet.
I want the real deal for my K98k, not a decent hog load....and steel at 1000 yards ideally.