1832 Neisse/Neisſe Percussion Musket

[chrisftk]

Here's the oldest long gun I own.

This is a model 1831 Prussian musket manufactured at Neisſe in 1832 (or Neisse now that the long s/"ſ "has fallen from use)

There are a number of these "Potsdam" model muskets in the US that possibly served in the US Civil War, but most were sanded, reworked or cut down. This example was attractive because it retained it's stock cartouche and Prussian Landwehr (assumed) unit marking. No clue when it arrived in the US, but it clearly escaped the fate of most.

It is interesting that there are still commonalities with imperial era markings the further back you go in time. Some things change, others stay consistent.

In any case, I thought I'd share. Thanks for looking.

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[Loewe]

Chris, Very nice, although these are as foreign to me as French rifles... I do love the era though, the history and personalities of the time is fascinating. Germany was just beginning its long road (short comparative to the time England and the US took, but a great deal of Germany's success was taking the best from the earlier revolutions, or evolution.. like everything men first learn from "aping" or imitating successful models, but the speed was also due to the nature of German society and cultural norms, - which today are being polluted by "diversity", - which is never a good thing and history has proven it hundreds of times without a single successful example) to its industrial dominance of Europe.

 

[chrisftk]

Chris, Very nice, although these are as foreign to me as French rifles... I do love the era though, the history and personalities of the time is fascinating. Germany was just beginning its long road (short comparative to the time England and the US took, but a great deal of Germany's success was taking the best from the earlier revolutions, or evolution.. like everything men first learn from "aping" or imitating successful models, but the speed was also due to the nature of German society and cultural norms, - which today are being polluted by "diversity", - which is never a good thing and history has proven it hundreds of times without a single successful example) to its industrial dominance of Europe.

Thanks Paul, I resisted the urge to go further back than needle rifles, but it was hard with the muskets of the era being so nice. I'd like to find a solid flintlock too, but those start to get difficult and expensive.

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[flynaked]

Very nice! This is the most original of the era I recall seeing, like you say most are trashed, so this is refreshing. The brass patina is beautiful!

 

[Warrior1354]

Very nice Chris I know very little about these but it looks nice, and it's German so you can't go wrong right!

Have to say you have been on quite a roll lately.

 

[Marcus]

Mine was made in 1818, but is in rougher condition and has been cut-down

 

[chrisftk]

Very nice! This is the most original of the era I recall seeing, like you say most are trashed, so this is refreshing. The brass patina is beautiful!

Thanks buddy! Yeah not easy to find unmolested examples.

Very nice Chris I know very little about these but it looks nice, and it's German so you can't go wrong right! [emoji23]

Have to say you have been on quite a roll lately.

Thanks Jordan! You are right, can't go wrong with anything German. Lol

Mine was made in 1818, but is in rougher condition and has been cut-down

Cool musket Marcus-- based on the date, yours would have originally been flintlock and converted sometime in the 1830s to percussion cap ignition.

Even though cut down, cool history there.

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[PrayingMantis]

Very cool, Chris, and thanks for the detailed photos of markings. I believe i have only ever seen cut down examples of these in person. Much like the Austrian Lorenz, they made popular shotgun conversions.

 

[chrisftk]

Very cool, Chris, and thanks for the detailed photos of markings. I believe i have only ever seen cut down examples of these in person. Much like the Austrian Lorenz, they made popular shotgun conversions.

Thanks Cyrus-- yeah I see very few intact like this. I'd love a Suhler too, but one day!

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[Nulle100]

Chris, I have a duplicate 1809/55 (rifled barrel, updated rear sight) if your interests continue to develop in the Potsdams. I also asked the Rifle Shoppe what would be needed to reconvert a Percussion beck to flint. I believe its a breech plug and the full lock assembly, which they sell. Finding an original in the US is pretty much impossible and very $$.