1912 Spandau Gew98 5303d with some cool history

chrisftk

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Continuing to whittle away at some of the rifles I haven't photographed. This one came from Mike and is one of the consecutive year Spandaus he was kind enough to part with. (The others being a pristine '11 and a salty '13 with a bolt cover) Condition-wise, this one is the middle ground between the other two. The finish is worn, but honestly so and not salty in the least. The stock is also a great example of worn vs. sanded. The stamps are still visible, but weak (reminds me of the 15 CGH I got a few years ago).

Mike flipped the disc when he got it and had a surprise---The disc is unit marked to the 1st Reserve Infantry Regiment. This regiment was part of the I Reserve corps and Eighth Army. They served at some of the marquee battles of the Eastern Front including Tannenberg and the 1st Battle of the Masurian Lakes. The regiment, rather depleted by losses, was moved to the Western front after the Russian capitulation and served until the end of the War. Given the prewar date and lack of major work, I'm pretty confident this one was with its unit for a long time. Lots of history in this one.

The serial #s are matching with the exception of the rear sight leaf/slider and an unmarked buttplate. The safety was also replaced with a matching # substitute when the original broke years ago when the rifle was shipped to Mike. Otherwise, the rifle is entirely factory.

One thing for discussion-- note the crown on the right side of the trigger sear. I have seen this on other rifles and am thinking it indicated that the rifle received the trigger group milling to mitigate the impact of mud/moisture buildup. Any thoughts for or against?

Receiver 5303 d
Barrel 5303 d (Bo 668)
Front Sight 03
Rear Sight Leaf mm
Sight Slider mm
Ejector Box 03
Trigger Sear 03
Front Barrel Band 03
Rear Barrel Band 03
Trigger Guard 5303
Trigger Guard Screws 03, 03
Floor Plate 03
Follower 03
Stock 5303
Handguard 5303
Buttplate unmarked
Bayonet Lug 03
Cleaning Rod 03
Bolt Body 5303 d
Extractor 03
Safety 03 (replaced)
Cocking Piece 03
Bolt Sleeve 03
Firing Pin 03

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This is a cool rifle Chris, looks to have received some brutal treatment yet is in very good condition. The crown on the sear is a point of interest for me as well. Attached is a pic from the sear on my SS/SSR, obviously converted from a Gew98.
I have also seen marks like this on my 6.5 Swede snipers, only ones with Mauser produced receivers ( note the left corner of the ejector box) Most likely a Swedish proof but I was always wondering how a crown proofed trigger ended up on my sniper. The two must be unrelated.
I apologize for the picture quality of the ejector box. It’s a blow up and I’m not home.
Have you ever measured ones with crowns vs ones without?
 

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This is a cool rifle Chris, looks to have received some brutal treatment yet is in very good condition. The crown on the sear is a point of interest for me as well. Attached is a pic from the sear on my SS/SSR, obviously converted from a Gew98.
I have also seen marks like this on my 6.5 Swede snipers, only ones with Mauser produced receivers ( note the left corner of the ejector box) Most likely a Swedish proof but I was always wondering how a crown proofed trigger ended up on my sniper. The two must be unrelated.
I apologize for the picture quality of the ejector box. It’s a blow up and I’m not home.
Have you ever measured ones with crowns vs ones without?
Thanks Rick-- I didnt bother looking up the regiment until after I picked it up from Mike, but once I did, I was pretty excited.

Very interesting on your SSR-- the crown would have likely carried over from its prior life. The Swedish proof was pretty similar, but ever so slightly different-- I once scored a bunch of cheap Gew98 lids from a seller that had them marketed as Swedish for like $20/ea.

The reason my mind went to the depot work is that it bears resemblance to the marking used to indicate a counterbored barrel-- this marking can be seen occasionally on Gew98s on the barrel collar-- even on the receiver of Gew88s occasionally too--
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My thought was this was an indicator showing the trigger work was done (preventing an armorer from wasting effort on removing the trigger if they were working on the rifle.) My understanding was that this trigger work was something they would do if a rifle was in for work, but they weren't proactively doing it on all rifles. (Kind of reminds me of minor automobile recalls-- do it when you are getting an oil change lol)
 
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It makes sense of course to mark additional work already performed. It takes the mystery out of my snipers trigger that I have wondered about since I first bought it. Great rifle and informative post once again Chris. Perhaps if I stick around long enough I’ll learn something before Alzheimer’s sets in.
I will measure several of these when possible to see if it is as you think
 
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Another fantastic addition to your collection Chris. I love the date. I am still looking for a 1912. I'll find one some day. Great rifle and some great history to go with it.
 
Great photos, Chris! I believe i was fortunate to see this one in person back during the great haul. Here is the original discussion when Mike got it: https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/1912-spandau-gew98.12905/

As for the crown, i believed it was linked to triggers specifically, at least in Gews, up until i got a Hannover assembly with it on the front barrel band. Now i suspect it was a used to note a piece went through extra inspection, or perhaps fitting.
 

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Great photos, Chris! I believe i was fortunate to see this one in person back during the great haul. Here is the original discussion when Mike got it: https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/1912-spandau-gew98.12905/

As for the crown, i believed it was linked to triggers specifically, at least in Gews, up until i got a Hannover assembly with it on the front barrel band. Now i suspect it was a used to note a piece went through extra inspection, or perhaps fitting.
Interesting and funny. The application of the stamp has actually deformed the metal on the band, after going to the trouble of addition fitting / inspection. This is again, a great thread. Thank you gents for this additional info!
 
Great photos, Chris! I believe i was fortunate to see this one in person back during the great haul. Here is the original discussion when Mike got it: https://www.k98kforum.com/threads/1912-spandau-gew98.12905/

As for the crown, i believed it was linked to triggers specifically, at least in Gews, up until i got a Hannover assembly with it on the front barrel band. Now i suspect it was a used to note a piece went through extra inspection, or perhaps fitting.
You know, I feel like I also have a band with that on it now that you've shown that. I'll have to go back and look.

I think you are onto something with maybe a fitting/modification indicator.
 
Sidebar on this one-- here is what Allied Intelligence had regarding this division, (in which the 1st Reserve was a part) particularly once it arrived in France-- Just in case others haven't read. Lots of action with this unit. Interesting to note the 1st Reserve Regiment was almost entirely wiped out in Sept 1918. Might be when this rifle was captured-- who knows? 🤷‍♂️

1st Reserve Division.​

COMPOSITION.​


Brigade.Regiment.Brigade.Regiment.Brigade.Regiment.Brigade.Regiment.Brigade.Regiment.
19141915191619171918
Infantry.1 Res.1 Res.1 Res.1 Res.1 Res.1 Res.1 Res.1 Res.1 Res.1 Res.
3 Res. 3 Res. 3 Res. 3 Res. 3 Res.
72 Res.18 Res.72 Res.18 Res.72 Res.18 Res. 59 Res.
59 Res. 59 Res. 59 Res.1 Res.Jag. Btn. 59 Res.
1 Res.Jag. Btn.1 Res.Jag. Btn.1 Res.Jag. Btn.
Cavalry.1 Res. Uhl. Rgt. (3 Sqns.).1 Res. Uhl. Rgt.1 Res. Uhl. Rgt.1 Res. Uhl. Rgt. (. Sqns.).4 Sqn. 2 Gd. Ulan Rgt.
1 Res. Ers. Cav. Rgt. (3 Sqns.).1 Res. Ers. Cav. Regt.
Artillery.1 Res. F. A. Rgt. (6 Btries.).1 Res. F. A. Rgt.1 Res. F. A. Rgt.1 Res. F. A. Rgt. (9 Btries.).1 Res. F. A. Rgt.
2 Abt. 1 Res. Ft. A. Rgt.
1363 Light Am. Col.
1390 Light Am. Col.
1393 Light Am. Col.
Engineers and Liaisons. 2 Eng. Btn. No. 1:4 Field Co. 2d Pion. Btn.301 Eng. Btn. (.):301 Pion. Btn.:
 Res. Co. 1 Pion. Btn.201 T. M. Co. 4 Co. Pion. Btn. 4 Co. 2 Pions.
 1 Res. Pontoon Engs.1 Res. Pontoon Engs. 1 Co. Pion. Btn. 1 Co. 34 Res. Pions.
 1 Res. Tel. Detch.1 Res. Tel. Detch. 201 T. M. Co. 201 T. M. Co.
 348 Searchlight Section. 31 Searchlight Section.
 Tel. Detch.401 Signals Command:
 401 Tel. Detch.
 158 Wireless Detch.
Medical and Veterinary. 501 Ambulance Co.501 Ambulance Co.
399 Field Hospital.399 Field Hospital.
9 Res. Field Hospital.9 Res. Field Hospital.
Vet. Hospital.137 Vet. Hospital.
Transport. M. T. Col.

HISTORY.​

1914–15.​

Russia.​

1. The 1st Reserve Division was on the Russian front from August, 1914, until November 1, 1917, at which time it entrained for France.

East Prussia-Poland.​

2. In 1914 it and the 36th Reserve Division formed the 1st Reserve Corps (Gen. Otto von Buelow). It took part in the operations of East Prussia (Hindenburg’s Army), in the Lodz maneuver (Von Mackensen’s Army), and in the combats on the Bzura.

3. In February, 1915, the division was in the Prasnysz region, northeast of the Bohr-Narew line.

Courland.​

4. In May, as part of Eichhorn’s Army, it took part in the raid on Courland.

1916.​

Galicia.​

1. It was on the Dvina in the Friedrichstadt region until July.

2. In August it was identified in Galicia, in Bothmer’s Army, opposed to the Broussiloff offensive. Here it had heavy losses. (The 11th Company of the 3d Infantry Regiment, in particular, was reduced to 30 men.) During September the division was reinforced. The depot at Friedrichstadt, near Warsaw, was completely emptied to make good its losses.

Courland.​

3. Toward the end of September elements of the division were in line near Friedrichstadt, along the Dvina, in a calm sector. The 18th Reserve Infantry Regiment was attached to the newly formed 225th Division.

1917.​

1. January 5, 1917, the division was taken to the Mitau region, where it helped stop the Russian attack. Losses in this sector were light, but there was considerable discontent due to the cold.

2. The division was relieved about the 15th of March and sent to the neighborhood of Gross-Eckau, near Mitau, where it rested two months.

Riga.​

3. The middle of May it was put back into line before Riga. It took part in the offensive against that city in September, stayed there from the 3d to the 7th of September, and then took up again its march toward the east. It organized its positions about 70 kilometers from Riga, near Hintzenberg (or Hildersberg?) (near Wenden) and established itself there.

France.​

4. Relieved the end of October, it entrained near Wenden for the western front (Itinerary: Riga, Mitau, Kovno, Eidtkuhnen, Insterburg, Thorn, Posen, Lissa, Breslau, Cottbus, Leipsic, Erfuhrt, Frankfort-on-the-Main, Sarrebruecken, Thionville, Sedan, Vouziers.) It detrained November 6 at Semide (southeast of Vouziers).

Champagne.​

5. After a rest of two days, the division went into line in the St. Hilaire sector (east of Vaudesincourt-Auberive).

VALUE—1917 ESTIMATE.​

The division was recruited in East Prussia and, as a result of insufficient local resources, from divers other localities—a great many Alsace-Lorrainers during the sojourn on the Russian front.

35The 1st Reserve Division has taken part in all the important attacks which have taken place on the eastern front since the beginning of the war. It seems, however, from interrogation of deserters (in Champagne, November, 1917), that the cadres and men were little prepared for war as it was waged on the western front.

1918.​

Champagne.​

1. The division remained in line east of Auberive until relieved by the 23d Division April 30.

Montdidier.​

2. May 13–14 it relieved the 76th Reserve Division in the Givesnes sector.

3. It was relieved August 4, but came back into line on the 10th a little farther to the north, in the region of Hangest-en-Santerre. It was withdrawn a few days later and rested several days in the neighborhood.

4. August 19 it relieved the 75th Reserve Division near Beuvraignes. It fought until relieved September 2.

St. Quentin.​


5. After 10 days’ rest it relieved the 21st Division near Le Verguier, northwest of St. Quentin. It was withdrawn on the 20th.

Ribemont.​

6. October 1 the division relieved the 208th Division near Ribemont. Withdrawn October 31.

Dompierre.​

7. It came back into line November 7 and remained until the armistice.

VALUE—1918 ESTIMATE.​

The division has suffered very heavily, notwithstanding the fact that, until about the 10th of August, it had taken no part in any really important actions this year. On the 18th of September the 1st Reserve Regiment was almost wiped out, its three battalion officers being captured with their staffs. It had also suffered a great many casualties the 9th and 10th of August. It is difficult to estimate the strength of its companies, owing to the fact that it is still in an active sector, but it is probably not over 50 rifles.

In the main the recruitment is East Prussian. There have been many Alsace-Lorrainers in its ranks, but since many of these have deserted there are probably not a great many of them left. For the most part the men are between 25 and 35 years old, but there are many older men and something less than 10 per cent of the division is made up by recruits of the 1919 class. It is again to be noted that the division was not employed in any of the German offensives this year.

Its conduct was remarkable in no way during the division’s participation in the heavy fighting around Hangest, Beuvraignes, and to the north of St. Quentin. During the early part of the year, when the division was in line in Champagne, there were a great many desertions, especially among the Alsace-Lorraine element. There have also been many cases of mutiny, especially in the 59th Reserve, the worst of the three regiments. About the middle of August a batch of some 500 recruits started out from the interior for the division. To sustain the morale of the men, these recruits were told they were going to simply support the artillery. Notwithstanding this, less than 250 men remained when the draft reached its true destination—the front lines. The men are very tired of the war, but on the whole seem resigned to the necessity of doing their duty.

The 1st Reserve is rated as a third-class division.
 
Really love the unit mark connection and it's long service. Adds so much more depth to a rifle since it has a story. If only all these rifles could talk like this one. Thanks for sharing.
 
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