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  1. Apha-Mike

    S184/G Newly Acquired - Reworked for postwar use? Opinions

    In searching for a related issue , re-bluing of S84/98 bayonets, I came across this former post of mine so I'm hoping I can just tag on to this post for more information. I have since sold the Yugo refurb but have recently come across instances of re-blued blades from S code bayonets. All of...
  2. Apha-Mike

    S/175k

    Thanks for that Andy! I'm researching my S/174K and S/175K S84/98's I noticed both were also low S/N's (5404a & 1795a respectively). As the Nasty party ((NSDAP) didn't officially take over until August of 1934 they could not have produced very many bayonets in that year that had the new...
  3. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    Photo sent to me recently showing the same type of frog w/ strap. Just FYI. I still maintain the strap is original but the stud on the strap was replaced post war. Edit and Revised 2/7: The strap is not original based on a comparison to 4 of my other "Cavalry" Strap bayonets frogs. Definitely...
  4. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    Thanks for everyone's help!! I'll see if I can enter it in the "Best Reproduction of a German Bayonet Belt Frog" catagory. Edit. However, I'll continue to research.
  5. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    I decided to take a closer look at the stitching used to secure the strap and found evidence of additional stitches above and below the strap. This could be either signs of rework or just additional stitches to secure the strap. It looks 3 stitches above the strap and one below and It looks to...
  6. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    It's H. Ruby & Co Hachenburg confirmed
  7. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    Follow up: In discussions with a pretty knowledgable source, I was told in the early years new recruits were issued brown rough outs and were responsible for greasing and blackening their own gear. Look on the inside belt loop of any s84/98 frog and you'll see what I mean. This is one of those...
  8. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    I think the strap is original but the knob was replaced for some reason. The strap is the most worn piece of leather on the piece.
  9. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    Thx! See my reply #26 for the answer. You mentioned a replaced stud (knob) See the pic of restitching.
  10. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    I think I found the answer. I noticed this earlier in comparing straps on my other ones. This one has been restitched. SOmeone replaced the original. That would explain a real maker with a modern strap knob. Whadya think? See pic
  11. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    Thx! I'm checking on the H Ruby Hackenburg Maker. Not much info on the web. Wish someone had a list of makers.
  12. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    Unfortunately no Blacklight! Sold it with my Bong in '78! And I can't say it has the same smell as my '41 /'42's but they have a lot more wear on them. Tough to say. I think that knob may be one thing that says " Repro" unless the maker in Hackenburg can be found. I've done enough "ageing" on...
  13. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    Agree. Might be the #1 thing points to Repro. Thx!
  14. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    I posted a better pic. I couldn't decipher Maker but Hachenburg and 1035 are clearer. Maybe you'll recognize the maker if it's legit! Thx!
  15. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    I've handled 2 out of 3 of those. The quality between those and mine is huge. But you also highlighted all of the reasons I suspected it could be a Repro. And yes, It would have to have been aged. I could highlight what I see as the differences but to what end? The one I do see as the same is...
  16. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    In regards to the quality of the leather strap vs the body. The strap is the smooth side (opposite side) of the rough out. Here's a pic of the inside. I can feel it. It's the same smooth as the strap. And you can see on the strap itself that the inside of the strap is the rough out side. Only...
  17. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    Thanks Andy! I recognize the difference in the secure knob on the strap. I have 3 cavalry strapped Frogs in my collection. That really is a great example. As I said, some things on this say Repro but I keep questioning. That's why I called in you guys. I posted a better makers mark. Thx!
  18. Apha-Mike

    Need opinions on 1935 Rough out frog for S84/98. Authentic or Repro?

    Thanks to all! I played around with some different light schemes and some filters. I can read Hachenburg 1935 but not the maker's name. Hopefully it's recognizable by someone.
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