1904 Erfurt Large Ring Kar 98 SN 2113

I had no idea the 1st and 2nd variants were made concurrently! Also, am I seeing correctly that it is the 1st variant that sported the H-band? If so, I think I might've had things backwards!
 
Wolfsburg said:
I had no idea the 1st and 2nd variants were made concurrently! Also, am I seeing correctly that it is the 1st variant that sported the H-band? If so, I think I might've had things backwards!
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The first variant carbine doesn't have a H-band. My photo with the three carbines. I mislabeled the bottom carbine but corrected it. It's actually a Kar.98 2nd model. Thankfully Heinz Lehner old carbine article has photos of both different barrel bands.

Kar.98 1st variant
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Kar.98 2nd model
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MichaelWC said:
The first variant carbine doesn't have a H-band. My photo with the three carbines. I mislabeled the bottom carbine but corrected it. It's actually a Kar.98 2nd model. Thankfully Heinz Lehner old carbine article has photos of both different barrel bands.

Kar.98 1st variant
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Kar.98 2nd model
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The first variant is a bit odd. I'm assuming the handguard had a spring clip holding it to the barrel. I've not handled one, but that's make the most sense.
 
MichaelWC said:
The first variant carbine doesn't have a H-band. My photo with the three carbines. I mislabeled the bottom carbine but corrected it. It's actually a Kar.98 2nd model. Thankfully Heinz Lehner old carbine article has photos of both different barrel bands.

Kar.98 1st variant
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Kar.98 2nd model
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Ahhhh, understood! I was beginning to think my understanding of which was which was wrong!
 
Amazing find! Glad you of all people got it!

Truly a relic.

Given the pitting, I would be afraid to be too aggressive with it, it'll only look worse. Also it looks like it had some form of coating/finish on it? I've seen similar remnants on other pre WWI Mauser's. I've always wondered if it was some form of protective coating.
 
Fal Grunt said:
Amazing find! Glad you of all people got it!

Truly a relic.

Given the pitting, I would be afraid to be too aggressive with it, it'll only look worse. Also it looks like it had some form of coating/finish on it? I've seen similar remnants on other pre WWI Mauser's. I've always wondered if it was some form of protective coating.
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Thanks Nathaniel! It's a really heavy patina, but it has been somewhat responsive to my light, conservative cleaning.. I'm going to give a few more passes, then accept what I end up with.
 
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