1916 Danzig G98 modified without "1920 or 1921" unique?

[artyldr01]

Good afternoon,

I picked up something of a Frankenstein 1916 Danzig Gewehr 98 modified. It is a fairly recent import, mix-master. Unfortunately the bolt is a Czech / Brno bolt if anyone has a more appropriate one. What is interesting to me is that it has the S42/G K147 rear sight base, sight and floor plate and Weimar WaA211 follower but no "1920" or "1921" on the receiver top.

The stock is interesting in that it has two unit markings on the disk. The first (cancelled out) 20 R.11.207 is 20th Regiment, Reserve Infantry, 11th company weapon # 207, followed by 1.G.G.8.75 (1st Regiment Grenadier Guard, 8th Company, 75th weapon...if my research is correct. It probably matters not because the number in the stock channel doesn't match the receiver SN.

Anyway, are there any theories on how this was modified Gewehr 98 received a 1935 Mauser Rear Sight, etc, without the 1920/21 date? Did this rifle somehow miss going through the standard process? Is there anything particularly interesting or unique about it?

Thank you!

 

[artyldr01]

A few more photos.

 

[mrfarb]

Rifles that were hidden won't have the 1920 date. I have quite a few that are like this.

 

[artyldr01]

Thank you! I recently moved and just dug out my set of the books to do further research. I appreciate the response!

It is neat to think that this was "hidden" by someone, just another neat possibility when researching and collecting these great artifacts.

I have a nearby store with a decent selection of various G98s and K98k's so I want to get smart before pulling the wallet out on other purchases as well!

Currently there is an all matching 1940 "660" Steyr there but I am not sure the price. Also a few Gewehr 98s at decent prices.

Thanks again for the help.

 

[Warrior1354]

Post some pictures of the other rifles if you can. Steyr 1940 660 code pieces are not easy to find especially when their all matching. And your doing the best thing right now first researching and learning before pulling the wallet out.

 

[artyldr01]

Will do! Thanks!

 

[Loewe]

Indeed, many organizations hid rifles, paramilitary groups of every variety, left, right and fascistic, - also elements of the military. Matter of fact, the vast majority of the rifles property marked (1920) were destroyed, as at the time Germany was far above authorized totals.

It should also be noted that the IAMCC primary role was supervision of German counterparts and German teams of workers destroying weapons and military equipment, - so these rifles were for the most part destroyed, the rifles the German government had access too. Which means that the ones they didn't probably survived in larger numbers as it is very common to find non-property marked G98's. Lastly, during Spa, the German military openly admitted to the Entente that huge numbers of rifles were missing, - totally unaccounted for. Surely Hitler and his gangster eventually uncovered most of these in the lead up to the war, but I have seen stories, one a German newspaper clipping, about rifles found in false walls and under stair cases, - I will try and show the Danzig one idiot found (idiot because he subsequently had it demilitarized...)

Rifles that were hidden won't have the 1920 date. I have quite a few that are like this.

 

[Loewe]

September 4, 2001

Link is dead, probably due to embarrassment for being an idiot... but it said the rifle was "naturally registered with the police and made incapable of further shooting..."

 

[Warrior1354]

Why did he have it demilitarized if it was already deactivated?

 

[Loewe]

It was found unaltered, full military trim, including original sling and muzzle cover, - a rifle of considerable worth if he had bothered to go through a legal process or donate it to a museum (assuming you could in "modern" Germany, where culture=racism in their progressive paradise, - much like as it is in what use to be the United States... where our cities are digging up old Confederate Generals, changing names of schools from former Generals to name them after recent tyrants, like George Bush and the current idiot in chief, - who I hear a major roadway in Florida is to be renamed in his "honor", - now there is a crime, naming an innocent thoroughfare, paid for with public funds - looted taxes from productive individuals - after a corrupt politician who violates the Constitution and his oath daily...)

Anyway, the rifle looks damn near new, other than the environmental damage (rust) which looks superficial. A rifle that survived 1919-1924, the nazis, WWII, the Allied occupation, and communism, finally succumb to modern progressivism and pc run mad...

 

[Dave Roberts]

Had he donated it to a Museum it would have been completely demilitarized thats whats done Now according to what I was told by collector friends in Germany . Either way the guy is a Moron . There would have been many collectors that would have gone crazy to get their hands on it . Auction House would have been the way to go . Best Regards

 

[artyldr01]

It is rediculous and completely counterproductive to destroy, erase or minimize history. The German's sticking their head in the sand, the US rewriting the civil war, and so many other examples do a dis-service to those that lived through it, and those that must learn from it. So, by the prolific overreaction to history we are indeed doomed to repeat it.

I just came upon a late war Radom P.35(p) that was clearly made in the last vestiges of the war. As I hold it, I do have thoughts of the, likely forced laborers that were compelled to build it. I do think of the resistance workers that were executed smuggling parts to the resistance. I do think of the Wehrmacht Soldat that may have carried it and the the GI whose name and service number is written on the backside of the grips that brought it home as a trophy of victory. I will likely never fire it, but who knows.

My daughter asks me why I like to collect weapons. I tend to prefer those that are dinged up and show signs of use because there is nothing that exemplifies the Soldier more than his weapon. I don't sit and think of whose or how many lives may have been taken with the weapon rather, I hope, the lives that were saved by it.

Though I will likely never know the story behind any of my weapons, as a career Soldier, when I hold one, I can't help but feel a kindred spirit to a Soldier from a different time, no matter their side of the line, and hope that politicians, leaders and decision-makers realize that their decisions ultimately boil down to someone holding and possibly pulling the trigger on this or a similar weapon in the future.

So to my logic we should save every last one of them, use them to teach EVERYONE the story behind the weapon, even let them fire them, clean them, have to carry them for days, weeks, months and years...maybe then we will not be in such a hurry to send other peoples kids to use them.

 

[Gew981916]

Link is dead, probably due to embarrassment for being an idiot... but it said the rifle was "naturally registered with the police and made incapable of further shooting..."

Wow I just wish I could pull that rifle through the computer screen.