Ajack SS Dienstglas original ?
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Hercules
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It looks to be an early SS Ajack that got enhanced. I agree with Absolut that mount looks OK possibly. I agree with Mauser and Absolut that the Skull and Runes is off. Probably added post war to make it worth more as a fraud marking. I personally would not buy it.
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The Dienstglas markings are fake as has been already mentioned . Also notice it is missing the — between the SS Dienstglas . This SSR Mount with Weihrauch Logo is original . These SSR Mounts with Weihrauch Logo were used on/with SS SSR rifles but not often seen .
biggymu
Well-known member
The elevation dial has not even been installed correctly. It’s too high and looks crooked in the photos. Would be interesting to know if lenses have a bluish hue when looked at in the light (coated as in Swede).
Years back, I found what looked like an SS Dienstglas scope consecutively numbered to one I had…. Once in hand, it was a modified Swede. The engraving on the elevation turret was fairly convincing, but the coated blue lenses gave it away.
Years back, I found what looked like an SS Dienstglas scope consecutively numbered to one I had…. Once in hand, it was a modified Swede. The engraving on the elevation turret was fairly convincing, but the coated blue lenses gave it away.
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The Focal Adjustment Ring is Swedish type on scope in question . The Focal Adjustment Ring on German Ajack Scopes are different I attached photo of an original SS SSR Scope & Mount as comparison photos . Take particular notice just forward of knurled section of focal adjustment , the Swedish type is longer than back part , this is a typical trait of Swedish type .
Thanks a lot, very interesting details. If you know it, it is easy to see.
The seller was sure he has an original SS, he paid much money for this one.
(he forgot to ask here before buying
)
I have some pictures with markings from the rifle.
Some of them I never saw on a Gewehr 98, also fake ?
(should be a Spandau 1915 later used by the Reichswehr)
The seller was sure he has an original SS, he paid much money for this one.
(he forgot to ask here before buying
)I have some pictures with markings from the rifle.
Some of them I never saw on a Gewehr 98, also fake ?
(should be a Spandau 1915 later used by the Reichswehr)
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mauser99
Senior Member
yes the markings are bad.. whoever did this spent some time and money making this train wreck.
Notably the receiver top is generally always scrubbed of its imperial markings. Commercial proofs added. After jan or april 1940 eagle N was used replacing the crown letter proofs.. The one shows up on the receiver right side. Barrel proof is never presented like that..
Notably the receiver top is generally always scrubbed of its imperial markings. Commercial proofs added. After jan or april 1940 eagle N was used replacing the crown letter proofs.. The one shows up on the receiver right side. Barrel proof is never presented like that..
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
Yeah the knowledge and information here is awesome and I also agree that those guys who 'know what right looks like' have a real advantage.Thanks a lot, very interesting details. If you know it, it is easy to see.
The seller was sure he has an original SS, he paid much money for this one.
(he forgot to ask here before buying
As for the current owner, it seems he took quite a burn which is something we were talking about in a different thread earlier. Buying first and asking later can have serious financial consequences.
Absolut
Senior Member
The mount is still worth 1k IMHO. So not a worthless set.
Ok, thank you for this.
A short summary for my understanding:
The scope is swedish, original before 1945, but with a fake "SS Dienstglas" marking
The mount is an original one
The rifle is a shortened Gewehr 98 with original prussian markings and additional fake markings
And what is the marking on the ring ? (last picture)
Thanks again in advance.
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Absolut
Senior Member
I don't know if the Gew98 is shortened because you never showed it full length nor what you consider fake markings (aside of the DH on the stock). Originally the receiver markings would had been scrubbed and the barrel would carry a commercial German firing proof from 1938-42 (someone correct me, quoting from my memory) period.
heavy_mech
RKI- Reasonably Knowledgable Individual
The 'ring' would be the lower band in our parlance. Those box marked parts would be new to this rebuild and it indicates who supplied them (I don't know this one and don't have the bible handy). The entire rear sight assembly was replaced and the band because the stock was shortened.
Now the set is mine.
In better light you can see the missing - between SS and Dienstglas.
But I have another question, I can not see any bluish hue, no matter how I hold the scope up to the light.
And the optic is very clear, the small blue reflection is my blue shirt.
Maybe a mix with german and swedish parts ?