BNZ 44 Value

Loewe said:
While I would like to see the markings, if you have any reluctance at all, skip it, disturbing the condition of the rifle would damage the value. (speaking of forcing screws or mishandling front sight hoods, bands etc.. - while the grease is neat, it should be easy to work around if careful, assuming you care about it... some do obviously, some think they are the Smithsonian preserving history through rust and dirt, but crummy old German grease isn't going to bring you much on a resale.)

Most of the markings can be seen easily, usually it is a partially struck "circle V/7" marking and the acceptance on the right receiver I am interested in. The barrel code is important too but would be under the stock in this rifles case. You can date the barrel roughly, tell who made it but it is not so important to disturb the rifles condition.
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I think this is the "V/7" that you're talking about pictured below. I didn't know what I was looking at till I reread your post. What does it mean?

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It is almost certainly a SDP inspection that took place at their KL Gusen operation, probably a correction marking, it is only known on receivers and can be in a number of places, the bridge is one of the most common, probably the most common, but RR and lower flat too, - also a few other places.

It isn't SS related, but most often it shows up on their contract rifles; - it is only known on receivers that were made at Gusen, which include Army rifles as late as the bnz/45.
 
Loewe said:
It isn't SS related, but most often it shows up on their contract rifles; - it is only known on receivers that were made at Gusen, which include Army rifles as late as the bnz/45.
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My BNZ 43 (Serial #9709) Contact rifle has two circled V7's stamped on the reciever:

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Yes, I noticed that in the other post, they are corrections (acceptance of flaws as serviceable-acceptable), they are most common on the SS contract receivers dated 1943-44 (most of which were made in 1944), but can be found on normal Army production if the receiver is KL Gusen made.

It could be wider applied, ScottB might know, but so far, all I have been able to observe are receivers attributable to Gusen and only on receivers.
 
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Well,

I don't see an eagle/623..


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Bigdibbs88 said:
Ugh I hate finding untouched SS contracts with original grease :moon:
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We have a local in your area that is amazingly good at pulling Mausers out of the woodwork. The problem is he loves to make a rifle as clean as he can before he resells them. He takes all of the original grease out and will even lightly retouch the blue. I can't count the times I have seen an original untouched Mauser all cleaned and touched up after it has passed through his hands. No matter what you tell him he is set in his ways.

Sadly finding nice untouched rifles in original grease in our area is getting even harder because of him.
 
Loewe said:
It is almost certainly a SDP inspection that took place at their KL Gusen operation, probably a correction marking, it is only known on receivers and can be in a number of places, the bridge is one of the most common, probably the most common, but RR and lower flat too, - also a few other places.

It isn't SS related, but most often it shows up on their contract rifles; - it is only known on receivers that were made at Gusen, which include Army rifles as late as the bnz/45.
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Thanks for the letting me know, I have a lot to learn.
 
Loewe said:
It is almost certainly a SDP inspection that took place at their KL Gusen operation, probably a correction marking, it is only known on receivers and can be in a number of places, the bridge is one of the most common, probably the most common, but RR and lower flat too, - also a few other places.

It isn't SS related, but most often it shows up on their contract rifles; - it is only known on receivers that were made at Gusen, which include Army rifles as late as the bnz/45.
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I WAS IN PRISON FOR RAPING CATS! (THIS IS PROFANITY)! NOW I AM RAISING MONEY FOR ANUS RECONSTRUCTION!
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I'm assuming that ch Af is the barrel code. Chime in if you know the details on that code. I couldn't figure out what the stamp was following those letters, I figured one of the pros would clue me in on that one as well. :thumbsup:

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The Serials on the inside of the stock were pretty easy to read, but I found a 15 or 16 all by itself and what appeared to be a stamp. See if you can tell.

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The barrel was made by FN, it is a pretty late lot (Af is the lot, they went to Aj or there about), several other of these late contract rifles have FN barrels, almost all with late lots like this.

Does the right side of the receiver have any markings? The bridge has the V/7 but is the receiver ring, on the right side, have any markings?

SonOfaGunn said:
I'm assuming that ch Af is the barrel code. Chime in if you know the details on that code. I couldn't figure out what the stamp was following those letters, I figured one of the pros would clue me in on that one as well. :thumbsup:
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Loewe said:
The barrel was made by FN, it is a pretty late lot (Af is the lot, they went to Aj or there about), several other of these late contract rifles have FN barrels, almost all with late lots like this.

Does the right side of the receiver have any markings? The bridge has the V/7 but is the receiver ring, on the right side, have any markings?
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The only markings on the receiver are "Mod.98" on the left and the "V/7" (partial) on the right rear. There is a waffen (I think that's what they're called) on the right side, but it's directly under the hinge of the rear sight. I figured that section would be considered part of the barrel.

Double checked, receiver has only two markings if the waffen beneath the rear trigger hinge doesn't count.
 
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Waffenamt, - this actually the rear sight sleeve, it is not part of the barrel but I do trend this pattern also.

Thanks!

SonOfaGunn said:
The only markings on the receiver are "Mod.98" on the left and the "V/7" (partial) on the right rear. There is a waffen (I think that's what they're called) on the right side, but it's directly under the hinge of the rear sight. I figured that section would be considered part of the barrel.

Double checked, receiver has only two markings if the waffen beneath the rear trigger hinge doesn't count.
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I screwed up.

The rust on my BNZ butt plate was worrying me so I decided to use kroil with fine steel wool to at least stop the rusting. I ended up removing the butt plate and when I did, a rusty piece had fallen out and it broke on the floor. Now I'm having trouble getting the buttplate back on. The screw that goes in the center of the plate now doesn't screw down all the way.

WHAT DO I DO?

Help much appreciated.
 
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