Duv44 stock repair (edit) repaired!

sethebersm1

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Good morning everyone,
Recently picked this duv44 G43 up for a decent price. As far as I can tell the only things that don’t match are the bolt components but it has some serious stock problems. At first I was under the impression that the matching serialized stock was just cracked badly at the wrist. However upon picking it up, it was in the condition pictured. Realizing this isn’t a 100% but mostly matching gun I was really wanting this as a shooter but is there any hope for this stock to be repaired to be durable enough to shoot? Either way I’d like to fix it enough to bring it back to life. Thank you!
 
If it’s a clean break that someone did not try to repair before it could likely be repaired to be cosmetically ok. If it has old glue it will never look right. I’d but a new stock for a shooter.
 
That is not a good candidate for repair without really noticing it AND that area is the weakest point for a repair job. Its a shooter to begin with so get a primo Fox Stock and get that thing shooting again.
 
That is not a good candidate for repair without really noticing it AND that area is the weakest point for a repair job. Its a shooter to begin with so get a primo Fox Stock and get that thing shooting again.
I recently emailed him with a lead time on G43 stocks and they were 12 months out due to health issues. That option may not be realistic for much longer/anymore.
 
I just ordered some acraglas and I’m going to attempt to repair it myself at least cosmetically. I’ll get a repro fox stock at some point for shooting. I was hoping this stock would be shootable because I’ve got this one and a mismatched ac45 I’m essentially going to decide between at some point and how they perform on the range was going to factor in to which is a keeper. But the way I now see it, the fox stock on the duv44 would be a plus as a selling point anyways. I’ll keep you guys updated on the repair, here goes nothing! 👍
 
I recently emailed him with a lead time on G43 stocks and they were 12 months out due to health issues. That option may not be realistic for much longer/anymore.
there is a stock manufacturer State side. He is in Oregon. I have not purchased one from him yet but I have heard some good reviews. Murry's Gunstocks makes them. He is a little bit more pricey but his turn around is a lot quicker. https://murraysgunstocks.com/military-gunstocks
 
If you want to fix the old stock, try contacting a man named Paul Dees. He's repaired some wood stocks and handguards for me in the past, and he's done great work for reasonable prices. His email is yellowhand11a@gmail.com

By the way, what is the s/n of your rifle and what are the numbers of the mismatched bolt group? I have a DUV 44 G43 I'm currently building that has a mismatched bolt carrier, and I'm wondering if we might have parts for each other's rifle?
 
After dutifully watching Mark Novak’s Gew91 stock repair video, I felt comfortable enough giving the repair a shot myself. I think it turned out okay cosmetically, whether or not I’m brave enough to shoot it is another thing. Although, I didn’t put a metal brace through the pistol grip like he did to reinforcement the grip itself, as of now it’s just acraglased together, cured, filed smooth and refinished to match the rest of the rifle. The way the stock was broken, I’ve thought about drilling a horizontal hole on the left side of the pistol grip where the wood was mostly shattered and had to fill in with acraglas and insert the 1/8” pipe and cover with a dowel to blend the grain but I’m not sure if that’s going to be enough to sustain recoil. At least it’s been brought back to life. What do you guys think?

 
Congratulations.

I can't fault it from what I see, but what do I know... I've done some Acraglas repairs but never anything that catastrophic.

It will never be "new," but you knew that already and now you've learned something and possibly saved what would otherwise be firewood.

If you shoot it, keep an eye on that repair to see if it opens up again. If it does, well, next time you'll try something else and make it stronger.

This is how we learn.

In German -- "Es ist noch kein Meister vom Himmel gefallen." No master (as in craftsman) has yet fallen from Heaven. I think even Mark Novak used that line once.
 
In German -- "Es ist noch kein Meister vom Himmel gefallen." No master (as in craftsman) has yet fallen from Heaven. I think even Mark Novak used that line once.


It's also a process that is helped greatly by actually caring about the subject that you're delving into.

Also in German -- "Das Lernen ohne Lust ist eine leere Last." Learning without desire is an empty burden.

You've got to care an awful lot about obsolete, temperamental, antique auto-loaders that - let's be honest- don't really compare favorably to their contemporaries to bother learning how to do a repair like that.
 
Hello
I like your DUV44 with DUROFOL Hanguard
I repaired this AC44 stock, I can not put a full picture of the gun because I sold it, the buyer has of course seen these pictures too.
No problem for shooting.
Best regards
 

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You might want to reinforce the stock with a loose tenon. As others have already stated, that’s the weakest spot on the stock. Also, epoxy with black or brown dye might not look bad. If it’s a clean break it’s worth a shot at fixing… what do you have to lose? The key to getting a good result is having a good clamping jig made.
 
Hello
I like your DUV44 with DUROFOL Hanguard
I repaired this AC44 stock, I can not put a full picture of the gun because I sold it, the buyer has of course seen these pictures too.
No problem for shooting.
Best regards
Repair looks fantastic, but... I see something. In the last photo -- it looks like the steel crossbolt -- recoil bolt? recoil lug? (Weaver -- "stock reinforcing lug") -- has broken away the two wooden buttresses that support it from the rear. One should not be able to see almost the entire width of the bolt exposed when looking from the rear. Only the center part, where the receiver hooks onto it, should be visible.

As an example, see the images on Lestek Foks' site, images number two, three, and five:
Note the wooden "supports" behind the slot for the crossbolt. I don't see those on your gun.

This is a known failure point, and the reason some later guns (Walther, 1945, according to Weaver, "Hitler's Garands," p. 144) had that crossbolt moved forward and the receiver forging altered and machined accordingly -- to give the wooden buttresses a longer shear surface where they meet the thinner side sections of the stock. They have a tendency to shear off and this was apparent even to the Germans when these guns were near-new. A small area means greater shear stress per unit surface area. It's not a good design.

Missing or damaged wood buttresses are repairable. I've done it. But the way I do it, it involves a special jig, some finicky work on a milling machine, and fitting an appropriate laminate "dutchman" as a replacement.

If not noticed in time, and not repaired, the recoil will quickly damage the main part of the stock, right around and behind the head of that steel crossbolt, and its round nut on the other side. The thin sections of wood on either side of the receiver are all that's taking the recoil, and the crossbolt holes will be beaten out and split the stock very quickly. The crossbolt needs to be held firmly by the counterbored holes and those buttresses behind and in front. In fact that may be why the stock broke in the first place -- the entire receiver being hammered back with each shot. The sides of the stock at the crossbolt are not visible -- were those damaged? If so, that was your problem. The back end of the receiver was hammering the stock. The (missing) wooden buttresses take about 2/3 of the recoil load, I think; the round parts of the crossbolt bearing on the edges of the holes, only about 1/3 total and that's not enough.

A gun with the crossbolt supports gone, is going to spray bullets all over the place. Accuracy "under every sow," as the Germans would say. And the stock will crack again, somewhere.
 
What you have noticed is correct, however this rifle if it works is more for collector than for the shooting, the reloading used must be light. Thank you for the details, I now know that this is a known problem and corrected on late, ac45 it seems to me
The choice was made to leave him his stock rather than using a replacement stock.
 
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