Since I had a dream last night that mine snapped in half at the crossbolt (and wake up to read this thread) and seeing how it's an example of an early Luftwaffe lam stock that's stood the test of time. Should I stop shooting it? After reading this it's made me a bit paranoid. It does have a bad a$$ crack from the trigger hole through to the rear bolt, then a fine crack through a few layers of Laminate out the side of the pistol grip. After a couple shots I always check that nothings loosened or cracked worse. I've put hundreds of rounds through it and nothings changed. I do have a jew mauser in 8mm, but here in Australia you can't own more than 1 of the same rifle without a valid reason, so i'm limited to the two (Scoping the Israeli one). Unless I can say this one is too rare to shoot, then possibly i'll be able to get another. I put the pics of the two P's it has above and below the lower band. It has the 'K' Stamp under the keel so I take it they had no room for the P in that location? :/ The stock is fully number matched 1937 S/42 and there's a badly worn Waf amt 63 on the left side of pistol grip. You can see by the repair and the rushed rear swivel sling that the Ply seems to be pretty strong on this one. I'd say the glue is either red or black(Or both). Has a 7 or 'L' in sling groove and a 12 in front of the floor plate would either of these be the Month of the stock's manufacture Mid/late37'? Nothing but mud,blood and sweat under buttplate. The wood around the Recoil lug is mashed pretty bad. I read in ''The backbone of the Wehrmacht'' that they came across at least 1 all matching Luftwaffe early Lam stock. Last thing I want to do is destroy this one. And no mr farbs not every dent and mark is my imagination.(Only ssome). Cheers, Tod. Ps. The recoil lug doesn't appear to be loose by hand but how would I check it's fully tight? Do I need a special tool? By the looks someone during ww2 was really slamming the tool thingo in there or the wood was splitting off from so many rounds being fired through it. Zoom in on the full pic to see what I mean.
Firing original stocks
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In regards to Laminated stocks have any of you guys seen one completely fail? Like should I hang this thing up or should it be alright? The crack is the same as when I got it, and I've prob put close to 1000 rounds through it. As you can see, it's seen better days. Is there a likely possibility this thing could snap in half? Or would I see some signs of further splitting as a warning to stop using it as a shooter? If so, what should I look out for? Around the recoil lug on the inside appears to be fine, (as opposed to the outside). If you look on one side near the recoil lug there are the double = lines on one side that look like stress cracks. The recoil lug itself appears to be solid and has really made itself snug. I don't want to (I have a small penis) it up when I have another to shoot. But this one still shoots good n I don't want to completely mothball it if I don't have to either. A reply or telling me to GTFO would help. Cheers. If the German Army was saying Lam stocks aren't feasible in 1935 well they sure were wrong. (In the case of this one at least). Then again they did lose the war.... (Which totally sucks).
In regards to Laminated stocks have any of you guys seen one completely fail? Like should I hang this thing up or should it be alright? The crack is the same as when I got it, and I've prob put close to 1000 rounds through it. As you can see, it's seen better days. Is there a likely possibility this thing could snap in half? Or would I see some signs of further splitting as a warning to stop using it as a shooter? If so, what should I look out for? Around the recoil lug on the inside appears to be fine, (as opposed to the outside). If you look on one side near the recoil lug there are the double = lines on one side that look like stress cracks. The recoil lug itself appears to be solid and has really made itself snug. I don't want to (I have a small penis) it up when I have another to shoot. But this one still shoots good n I don't want to completely mothball it if I don't have to either. A reply or telling me to GTFO would help. Cheers. If the German Army was saying Lam stocks aren't feasible in 1935 well they sure were wrong. (In the case of this one at least). Then again they did lose the war.... (Which totally sucks).
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In regards to Laminated stocks have any of you guys seen one completely fail? Like should I hang this thing up or should it be alright? The crack is the same as when I got it, and I've prob put close to 1000 rounds through it. As you can see, it's seen better days. Is there a likely possibility this thing could snap in half? Or would I see some signs of further splitting as a warning to stop using it as a shooter? If so, what should I look out for? Around the recoil lug on the inside appears to be fine, (as opposed to the outside). If you look on one side near the recoil lug there are the double = lines on one side that look like stress cracks. The recoil lug itself appears to be solid and has really made itself snug. I don't want to (I have a small penis) it up when I have another to shoot. But this one still shoots good n I don't want to completely mothball it if I don't have to either. A reply or telling me to GTFO would help. Cheers. If the German Army was saying Lam stocks aren't feasible in 1935 well they sure were wrong. (In the case of this one at least). Then again they did lose the war.... (Which totally sucks).
I have never seen one completely fail and self destruct upon firing, HOWEVER every year all our guns get one year older than they’ve ever been, (as do we!) with one more year’s worth of temperature and humidity variations, one more year of firing and cleaning for those being shot, and any manner of abuse or rough handling they might see.
The point here is that just because I have yet to see one fail doesn’t mean it won’t happen. For most shooters, when the cracks get worrisome enough I’m pretty sure they stop shooting that one, and perhaps switch to another in their collection. The thing is that one of these stocks could go from “ok” to “catastrophic failure” with ONE hot load, one set-back bullet, there’s any number of ways to multiply the forces over the average. And when it goes, it will be right in front of you so you’ll be the first to know!!
I have guns I flat out won’t fire. Never. Might someone else? Sure!! But not me, and ONE of the things that gets a gun in my collection onto the “no-fire” list is a cracked stock. Rarity could get one on there too. Or lack of ammo could do it. But cracks in stocks, especially longitudinal layer separation in laminated stocks (which makes me wonder how the REST of the glue is doing) is a big one. Is yours too cracked to fire? That’s up to you of course but if it were mine it would earn a well deserved retirement from the firing line.
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Cheers mate, as you can see from the pics it's seen better days, and as much fun as it is popping off a few rounds through it there's no way in hell I want to experience it falling apart or snapping in two like my dream. I think that dream and waking up to this post is enough of a sign for me to hang it up and admire it for what it is. It gets to 40c deg + (=100F+) for a week or two here every summer then close to 0 c (30F) every winter I can only imagine that can't be good for any wood let alone 30+layers glued together. Perhaps i'll put a few rounds through it for B'day's or special occasions. (Maybe). Thanks again. Tod.
P on Barrel.
So I've managed to get little answers on this rifle, as it is an early 1937 Laminated Prototype for the Luftwaffe..... Is that a 'P' On the top of the barrel? I previously thought it were an 'f' but as you can see the underside has a clearly stamped 'f' as where this appears to be a 'P'. Under a magnifier it looks like a lightly/awkwardly stamped odd 'P' But i'm far from an expert on Stamp fonts. Keep in mind that it is in that overhang position for the upper handguard so punching a clear stamp in that location would be hard. It's clearly a different font to the 'f' located underneath as the middle line doesn't intersect (just as one would expect from a P.) Could it be that the Early 1937 metal parts were marked 'P' to Match the Laminated stocks? Feel free to tell me wtf it is otw. It's 3 digit y serial with a Lam stock shows how early it actually is ''The backbone of the Wehrmacht'' states the 1937 S/42's are Walnut with 4 digit serials. So how early is this? I've now chalked and got good pics of most stamps, should I upload them on their own thread or is there a place I should put them? Cheers, Tod.
So I've managed to get little answers on this rifle, as it is an early 1937 Laminated Prototype for the Luftwaffe..... Is that a 'P' On the top of the barrel? I previously thought it were an 'f' but as you can see the underside has a clearly stamped 'f' as where this appears to be a 'P'. Under a magnifier it looks like a lightly/awkwardly stamped odd 'P' But i'm far from an expert on Stamp fonts. Keep in mind that it is in that overhang position for the upper handguard so punching a clear stamp in that location would be hard. It's clearly a different font to the 'f' located underneath as the middle line doesn't intersect (just as one would expect from a P.) Could it be that the Early 1937 metal parts were marked 'P' to Match the Laminated stocks? Feel free to tell me wtf it is otw. It's 3 digit y serial with a Lam stock shows how early it actually is ''The backbone of the Wehrmacht'' states the 1937 S/42's are Walnut with 4 digit serials. So how early is this? I've now chalked and got good pics of most stamps, should I upload them on their own thread or is there a place I should put them? Cheers, Tod.
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Re-Glueing duffel cuts?
I have an awesome all matching 1916 Gew98 Vet bring back that included (Most of) the sling This thing has a mint bore with fully matching parts, the family refused to sell the bayo with it as they don't need a license for it. :/ (Why you wouldn't just get a firearms lic is beyond me. With such an Heirloom). It's clearly never been fired since 1919 as the stock slides apart! (As I found out the hard way)but I've tried liquid nails on the dowel joints on the stock but after a couple dozen shots it comes apart..... Anyone know what glue I should/could use to fix it to handle the impact? ANY suggestions appreciated. And yes I want to use the original stock , the paperwork to import a stock to this retarded country is way harder than re-glueing the OG stock. Cheers for any suggestions.
I have an awesome all matching 1916 Gew98 Vet bring back that included (Most of) the sling This thing has a mint bore with fully matching parts, the family refused to sell the bayo with it as they don't need a license for it. :/ (Why you wouldn't just get a firearms lic is beyond me. With such an Heirloom). It's clearly never been fired since 1919 as the stock slides apart! (As I found out the hard way)but I've tried liquid nails on the dowel joints on the stock but after a couple dozen shots it comes apart..... Anyone know what glue I should/could use to fix it to handle the impact? ANY suggestions appreciated. And yes I want to use the original stock , the paperwork to import a stock to this retarded country is way harder than re-glueing the OG stock. Cheers for any suggestions.
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I'd leave it be and shoot something in another 8mm flavor. However, re dufflecut repair:
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?3289-Duffle-cut-repair-(pics
http://www.k98kforum.com/showthread.php?3289-Duffle-cut-repair-(pics
Thanks mate, can't you read Austr-Alien You know I wanna shoot this beast with that Mint bore n beautiful stock! How some dick could cut it is beyond me.... Like cut a hole in ya duffel bag n tie some socks over the end ffs ya silly cunts. Imagine cutting such a beaut of a stock and putting the marks on the receiver n barrel like that! I was so pissed the wouldn't sell the bayo the fuckwits. Cheers for the link, you know i'm gonna still shoot it!
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