Gew98 sniper rifle for R. Fuess 3x scope

Absolut

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In the last few days prior to Brexit I finally got ahold of a purchase that I did in the UK with an auction company. I remember when I first saw the rifle put up for auction I mailed the two pictures of it (not even showing everything of the rifle) to Wolfgang who then replied he does not like what he can see - but I had requested additional pictures, and when I got them I forwarded them again to Wolfgang who then changed his mind to that it looks very promising! I hated the auction for being a silent auction, but really wanted the gun so I placed a high bid on it and turned out to be successful.

Wolfgang was also kind enough to educate me the rifle would originally had carried a 3x scope made by R. Fuess which is painted green. The rear scope ring has a single conical shaped pin whereas at the front it has two claws. The whole scope sits offset to the left of the action. The locking lever on the rear is swepped bottomside and even has spring held depression holes to lock it either in open or closed position. Also note the original assembly number on bottom of the front base. I really wonder if the scope bases are only soldered, or are also held by screws which were filed off to disappear. Wolfgang by the way also told me that according to the pictures it should be a Spandau 1915 dating rifle - but that was based on still not the best pictures from the auction company. Maybe the pictures that are attached to this thread can confirm or change this evaluation, maybe Paul can also give his opinion?

The rifle itself is all matching numbers. The stock however originates from a different rifle, but was period restamped to match the serial number of this rifle. You can still make out the original rifle serial number on the stock, the new serial matching to the metal parts was stamped atop with a different font. Interesting detail, I took off the handguard to check it - turned out the handguard was also restamped to match the rifle on the inside, as well as that the handguard originally matched to the original stock serial number as well!

It still is full of dirt and rust that I will carefully remove when I find time to do this, maybe even during Christmas Holiday. I thought a few pictures in advance however are of interest, to show how it turned up and get a few opinions in advance. The stock I already wiped down with oil soaked clothing to wipe off grease, dust and dirt, I won't do more with the stock. And basically my intention is also to only clean the rifle so that it will retain as it is now, to avoid further rust damage.
 

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Beautiful rifle, I love the untouched condition. I wonder if the original stock had a bolt cutout or not, I think that depends on the maker? I assume there would be depot markings given the stock so those would probably be of interest in evaluating this one, great rifle!
 
Yes! Beautiful rifle, thanks for sharing.

As to the question of whether or not the bases are screwed in addition to soldered, in pic 5/13 I believe you can see the shadows of the (filed off) screws, 2 at front, 1 at rear. Perhaps this is just a characteristic of the particular photograph, but that’s what I see. (with eyeglasses removed!)
 
Truely a beautiful and rare rifle!
Congratualtions on that find!!
The original stock was with bolt cutout, as you can see on the attached period photo.
The period photo shows a Fuess 3x rifle of the Bavarian 1st Jaeger Bataillon, part of the Alpenkorps.
The Bavarian units of the Alpenkorps had their basic equipment with 3 (Bavarian) sniper rifles per company. Since the Alpenkorps was a "German" unit they got additional equipment from Prussia. In early 1915 the number of sniper rifles was stocked up, to 15 sniper rifles per company.
I also attached shots showing the correct scope for that mount.

Period photo with friendly permission of the owner. Author of great books about the Alpenkorps.
https://www.amazon.de/Das-Alpenkorps-Dolomiten-Front-1915-Realität/dp/8882668665
https://www.degruyter.com/view/journals/mgzs/78/1/article-p245.xml?language=de
 

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The Fuess 3x and 5x scopes had an eyecup attached with a clamp/bracket that is usually missing, but can be seen on the period photo.
Attached some shots showing Fuess scope cases. Early scope cases were made from leather, later cases from cardboard covered with canvas and leather lids.
Some of the early scopes came with an additional cloth (Loden) bag for storage.
 

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While the word "extraordinary" is often used, in this case it truly applies!

Wolfgang is correct, almost certainly a Spandau/15, though in one instance a Spandau/14 in the no suffix range has the same acceptance (Spandau/1914 3895, not a sniper rifle). This I thought to be a 1915 build, or at least a very late 1914 made rifle, for whatever reason "no-suffix" rifles of a particular year are often attributable far later in the year by acceptance, this is especially true 1899-1905, but was carried on throughout the war... when one buys a no-suffix rifle, especially from the arsenals, the rifle could be far later in the year than you imagine, this is not only a matter of acceptance patterns, but also shown in stock variation (having late stock features that are not seen until much later)

Anyway, this RR is not seen consistently until the no-suffix range of 1915, though is seen earlier in three instances, two very late in 1914, the earliest #3895 is almost certainly a rifle made later in the f-g block of 1914 or possibly not until 1915.

In the last few days prior to Brexit I finally got ahold of a purchase that I did in the UK with an auction company. I remember when I first saw the rifle put up for auction I mailed the two pictures of it (not even showing everything of the rifle) to Wolfgang who then replied he does not like what he can see - but I had requested additional pictures, and when I got them I forwarded them again to Wolfgang who then changed his mind to that it looks very promising! I hated the auction for being a silent auction, but really wanted the gun so I placed a high bid on it and turned out to be successful.

Wolfgang was also kind enough to educate me the rifle would originally had carried a 3x scope made by R. Fuess which is painted green. The rear scope ring has a single conical shaped pin whereas at the front it has two claws. The whole scope sits offset to the left of the action. The locking lever on the rear is swepped bottomside and even has spring held depression holes to lock it either in open or closed position. Also note the original assembly number on bottom of the front base. I really wonder if the scope bases are only soldered, or are also held by screws which were filed off to disappear. Wolfgang by the way also told me that according to the pictures it should be a Spandau 1915 dating rifle - but that was based on still not the best pictures from the auction company. Maybe the pictures that are attached to this thread can confirm or change this evaluation, maybe Paul can also give his opinion?

The rifle itself is all matching numbers. The stock however originates from a different rifle, but was period restamped to match the serial number of this rifle. You can still make out the original rifle serial number on the stock, the new serial matching to the metal parts was stamped atop with a different font. Interesting detail, I took off the handguard to check it - turned out the handguard was also restamped to match the rifle on the inside, as well as that the handguard originally matched to the original stock serial number as well!

It still is full of dirt and rust that I will carefully remove when I find time to do this, maybe even during Christmas Holiday. I thought a few pictures in advance however are of interest, to show how it turned up and get a few opinions in advance. The stock I already wiped down with oil soaked clothing to wipe off grease, dust and dirt, I won't do more with the stock. And basically my intention is also to only clean the rifle so that it will retain as it is now, to avoid further rust damage.
 
Wonderful rifle and thanks for sharing too. Have to say that is one of my dream rifles to find here in the states but the chances are very slim?

Thank you for the info as well Wolfgang always enjoy reading what you provide in data.
 
As expected and usual, great information Wolfgang and Paul! I've did a quick cleaning job yesterday evening, when I find time I'll do new pictures and post them. Seems both scope bases had two screws that were filed flat. Pictures will (hopefully) show this.

Now only to find a scope as shown by Wolfgang ....
 
Wonderful rifle, thanks for the excellent photos! I wonder, does the buttplate have a depot stamp for the stock work? I don’t see scharfschutzen enough to know if they went through regular depots when reworked.
 
Attached the pictures of the rifle as quickly cleaned. Serial number on stock matches the number on bayonet lug, inside handguard and on buttplate. Clearly all from a single different rifle! However, stock on the outside, stock on the inside and handguard on the inside were re-serialized to match the action in it! Nothing additionally on the buttplate that would indicate an arsenal, unfortunately. Maybe done in the field by a gunsmith?

During cleaning I noticed the safety was stuck due to rust and dried up grease/oil/dirt. Bolt on the underside is also extremely clean. It is very obvious it probably since WWI was sleeping in a closet. The only thing that then post happened was the British firing proof - as visible by the BNP on the receiver (plus the full stamping on the underside of the barrel at the very front).

PS, I never mentioned it, some might have noticed it: it came with the very rare emergency clothing sling as well! Unfortunately the leather at the rear swivel was broken. I provisionally fixed it with tape in place during the pics.
 

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I did manage to find a scope that I received yesterday. Fortunately I was correct on gambling the elevation ring had been turned bottom up and removing it unveiled the 1-10 markings on the underside. Unfortunately though it seems there is some difference in spacing of the claws to the pivot pin, hence it cannot be installed fully. Not sure though if I should consider altering either the claws or the pivot pin to make it working. Would anyone else owning a Fuess 3x with this style claws/pivot pin mind measuring the spacing between rear and front?

Edit: @Amberg just noticed the rear ring is different with my scope from yours. Note yours has screws on both sides while mine has that single type screw. Does yours also have a number stamped on the left side of the rear ring middle part?
 

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Well, almost two years later now I found another Fuess scope from a Seller in Italy that looked like it somewhat would be correct to this rifle. Purchased it and received it today. It is super tight on the rifle, but guess what: the claws fit, and the rear fits with the exactly same spacing of the rings! Only the rear was not a fully perfect fit - maybe adjusting the windage will be enough. Will look into this when I find the time.

In the meantime some mobile phone snapshots. The scope condition even fits to the rifle perfectly! Shoutout once more to @Amberg for having pointed me in the correct direction to the scope needed for this rifle!

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