Gewehr 98 Simson & Co Suhl 1916 3912a

[PrayingMantis]

I’m in the home stretch with rephotographing everything. With the great lighting today i decided to redo this one.
This is a beat up but matching except for pin Simson I got from Paul a while back. It’s a nice Saxon Simson with very clear stamps throughout. The cypher is fantastic. Most of the acceptance are typical of Saxon Gews: c/B, c/R, c/W, and c/K.


Simson & Co. Suhl 1916

Receiver 3912a c/B c/R c/R
Barrel 3912a c/K c/K c/K Kr 7
Front Sight 12
Rear Sight Leaf 12
Sight Slider 12
Sight Slider Tabs 12
Ejector Box 12
Trigger Sear 12
Front Barrel Band 12
Rear Barrel Band 12
Trigger Guard 3912 c/B c/R
Trigger Guard Screws 12, 12
Floor Plate 12
Follower 12
Stock 3912
Handguard 3912
Buttplate 3912
Bayonet Lug 12
Cleaning Rod 12
Bolt Body 3912a
Extractor 12
Safety 12
Cocking Piece 12
Bolt Sleeve 12
Firing Pin not numbered

 

[PrayingMantis]

Barrel and sights.

 

[PrayingMantis]

Triggerguard, magazine assembly, and bands.

 

[PrayingMantis]

Stock metal.

 

[PrayingMantis]

Stock wood. Check out that crisp Saxon cypher.

 

[PrayingMantis]

Bolt. The pin is a generic replacement. I imagine the original was clipped. I’d like to get an imperial pin for it.

 

[chrisftk]

Cyrus, that one is a definite diamond in the rough. It's got that gritty "been there" look without compromising on originality. Great photography, it really brings new life to these rifles.

 

[biggymu]

Nice rifle! Interesting Star of David on the bottom of the receiver. I haven’t seen that before. Very clear cartouches. And it’s a Simson!
I have a ‘16 and a ‘17 that I have yet to photograph I was telling Chris about. I have not seen either in years. If time will ever permit!

 

[joryfreeburg]

I like the old warhorse look of this Simson. Nice rifle Cyrus

 

[Loewe]

This rifle came out of NY (Corning) in January 2007, Rich owned it for a short time and sold it to me in May 2007, - the auction had several players, including Peter kuck, but the auction stayed low (about $700) =, at least by todays standards... back then $1000 would have been some rifle. Today shitty rc total mismatch, refinished garbage pull that, though todays dollar is like the early 1922 German Mark, way things are going 1923 is just around the corner.

 

[PrayingMantis]

Thanks for the comments, Chris, Rick, Jory, and Paul!

Nice rifle! Interesting Star of David on the bottom of the receiver. I haven’t seen that before. Very clear cartouches. And it’s a Simson!
I have a ‘16 and a ‘17 that I have yet to photograph I was telling Chris about. I have not seen either in years. If time will ever permit!

I hope you get the time, Rick, i would love to see them! So you have Simsons from 1915, 1916, and 1917, that's quite impressive!

This rifle came out of NY (Corning) in January 2007, Rich owned it for a short time and sold it to me in May 2007, - the auction had several players, including Peter kuck, but the auction stayed low (about $700) =, at least by todays standards... back then $1000 would have been some rifle. Today shitty rc total mismatch, refinished garbage pull that, though todays dollar is like the early 1922 German Mark, way things are going 1923 is just around the corner.

Great to the know the background, thanks, Paul. I got my first Gew, a bolt mismatch 1916 Danzig, in 2008 for $300. Now i wouldn't bat an eye at paying $800 for the same Gew, but at the time i was lamenting that i hadn't started collecting ten years earlier when they could be had for $100.

 

[OnlyMil]

Very cool rifle with honest use and a lot of charm. Stock is very attractive. That cypher is crisp indeed!

While price is always a factor, I never mind "buying early" to pick up the right rifle. I am young so I've got 40+ years to appreciate them. Just the other day I saw someone purchase a double-date (1916/17) Spandau Gewehr 98 with a couple accessories for $2800 on a BIN on GB. The listing was up maybe 12 hours? Then there is of course the gray blanket bringing in $1500-$2500 on each rifle.

I always have trouble vetting German rifles online from sources I haven't used before.

 

[biggymu]

Cyrus,
I had (2) 1917’s. The Prussian ‘17 that Chris posted recently was also from my collection.
Many of my rifles have been pieces that were produced by that factory throughout its existence. I have some 98b’s, BSW’s and then BCD’s. Even my SSR has a BSW stock. Also an LSR.
I don’t have any particular reason for doing so. I have one of the first and one of the last!

 

[mauser1908]

That’s a fantastic 1916 Simson, Cyrus!