Help with ID

[NJ2656]

I have someone local that I know is very familiar with working on Mausers so I would probably just use him. I don’t think I’d part with the stock as it came with the rifle. But who knows. It would be nice to have a mostly correct rifle to use it on at some point.

 

[NJ2656]

I think there is a decent chance your great uncle picked up a parts gun put together from parts at the SS equipment depot in Dachau. Any idea what unit he served in? Lots of rifles were built, traded, and brought home well after the war ended, but it would be interesting to know.

That stock is an untouched and unused SS depot stock. It is rare and valuable. The rest is--no offense--a collection of junk. Little to no value. If the bolt is an unusued armorer's bolt, it also has value.

Taking this action to a gunsmith would IMO be a waste of your money. It would require a lot of work, and the gunsmith will probably want to reblue it. IMO, you just appreciate it as is, an interesting GI junk gun. If you want to make a project of this, please consider passing that stock on to an SS collector. It should be saved, and would probably pay your gunsmith bills and for a replacement stock.

@RyanE curious what the w/o stamp means. No clue where or what unit he served with. I’d be fine just having it in the safe as is. It’s been that way for more than 50 years at this point probably longer. As far as parts value is concerned I think I’d only consider it if the value got me close to having something nice enough to shoot. Good condition and shootable. Wouldn’t be worth it really other wise.

 

[Mauserguy85]

Let me put it this way. The stock alone is worth in excess of $1000-$1500 (maybe even more) to somebody needing it for a “restoration”. I paid $850 for scrub walnut stock for my bnz45 restoration and that was years ago. The other parts (with more pics of areas where they would be numbered) could and possibly are armorer’s parts. Let’s say that is an armorer’s unnumbered bolt, it’s probably over $500. The front band easily $50+. You get the picture….

Again, we need to see more pics of the areas where they would normally carry a serial to make sure certain parts were not “scrubbed”.

So yes, I’m pretty sure you can probably get a very nice k98k example if you were to part this out.

 

[NJ2656]

Let me put it this way. The stock alone is worth in excess of $1000-$1500 (maybe even more) to somebody needing it for a “restoration”. I paid $850 for scrub walnut stock for my bnz45 restoration and that was years ago. The other parts (with more pics of areas where they would be numbered) could and possibly are armorer’s parts. Let’s say that is an armorer’s unnumbered bolt, it’s probably over $500. The front band easily $50+. You get the picture….

Again, we need to see more pics of the areas where they would normally carry a serial to make sure certain parts were not “scrubbed”.

So yes, I’m pretty sure you can probably get a very nice k98k example if you were to part this out.

Any list or example of where else to photograph. I’ve tried to include more overall shots but the server won’t let me.

 

[Mauserguy85]

1) Left side of front barrel band

2) Underside of handguard

3) Bolt root top, bottom and back. (Example pics below of a numbered bolts and parts so you know where serials would have been)

4) Bolt parts like both sides of the safety, back of cocking piece, sides and top of bolt sleeve

5) Few more close up of the front of the triggerguard and floorplate.

How is the bore on that barrel?

Also sight parts are unnumbered and fairly valuable as well for guys looking to restore a later war example.

 

[NJ2656]

@Mauserguy85 Some of these might not be good enough. But here they are. From what I can see with just a light in the breach rifling looks sharp. I don’t have a scope. I would expect a little rust and such. It has been stored for at least 30 years at a time without cleaning.

 

[Mauserguy85]

@Mauserguy85 Some of these might not be good enough. But here they are. From what I can see with just a light in the breach rifling looks sharp. I don’t have a scope. I would expect a little rust and such. It has been stored for at least 30 years at a time without cleaning.

They are good enough. Just would like to see the top of the bolt root as well. That will tell a lot about the bolt. Also the firing proof is located on the back. You posted pictures of the front and bottom of the bolt root. In order to get a pic of the firing proof on the back of the root, you will need to disassemble the bolt parts from the body….

To do this (if your not familiar), make sure no rounds in the rifle, close the bolt on an empty chamber. Put the safety into the vertical position. Pull the bolt open. Pull the locking lever on the back left side back of the receiver open, slide the bolt out completely while holding the locking lever “open”. Depress the plunger (it’s spring loaded) on the bolt shroud and hold it down you screw out the back of the complete bolt guts counterclockwise.

 

[NJ2656]

Hopefully these are what you’re looking for. Only marking I’ve seen on the bolt is the last picture.

 

[RyanE]

Bolt looks scrubbed, which isn't a surprise. Depots did that. Front band and trigger group look like unused armorers parts.

 

[NJ2656]

So if I wanted to part it out what would be the best way to do it? And how do I determine if I’m getting a fair deal?