HZa stamped M.95 Mannlicher Stutzenkarabiner
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AndyB
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Looks like cracked buttstock or upperguard on various places and probably glued by reparation, any details of other austrian marking there, anything on buttplate? Same as the lower ring and backsight should be presented, this type of side ring welding was used only by few countries, not by austrians probably, but i assume by hungarians, so the sight protector and lower ring could be from M95/31 in that case. Stock was reserialed which is evidently visible here possible by refurbishment or shortage probably. by corect shortage should be changed the distances as the long rifle sights shoots different with shortened barell.
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Andy,
Regarding your questions-
The 'cracks' in the stock photos are present but very minor. There are no apparent indications of repair to the stock, and I'm able to view it in hand, not via photos. There's a very small and clean repair to the side of the hand guard, but it requires a close look. I'm confident we can rule out the idea that this is a Hungarian 31M, it lacks the expected markings on both the stock and the metal (receiver and barrel). I still think Yugoslav repair (possibly) and reuse (likely) are the most likely scenarios.
For your information, there are very faded numbers where you observed, in typical M.95 style (numbers followed by a single letter), exactly what I'd expect from a carbine that went through some level of refurbishment. There is a Steyr 'K' stamp on the butt plate, but no unit designation. The inside of the plate is stamped.
Regarding your questions-
The 'cracks' in the stock photos are present but very minor. There are no apparent indications of repair to the stock, and I'm able to view it in hand, not via photos. There's a very small and clean repair to the side of the hand guard, but it requires a close look. I'm confident we can rule out the idea that this is a Hungarian 31M, it lacks the expected markings on both the stock and the metal (receiver and barrel). I still think Yugoslav repair (possibly) and reuse (likely) are the most likely scenarios.
For your information, there are very faded numbers where you observed, in typical M.95 style (numbers followed by a single letter), exactly what I'd expect from a carbine that went through some level of refurbishment. There is a Steyr 'K' stamp on the butt plate, but no unit designation. The inside of the plate is stamped.
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AndyB
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Thanks for details, this is a long rifle shortage to Stutzen lenght, so the buttstock was from different long rifle shortened,reserialed to this receiver and shortened barell complet. Question is when it got the hungarian M95/31 parts, but i dont believe it was before the Ws1 stamp, most real postwar. The shortage to Stutzen lenght when not renumbered backsight could be teoretically a Yugoslavian done prior 1930. On right side are only austria empire proofs?
It appears so, but they're very faded and don't show any indication of Hungarian stamps, especially the 'E' stamp on 31M barrels.
Another example of the same unknown marking on an expired Gunbroker auction:
Like the one I posted, that one is another Stutzenkarabiner still in 8X50R, all matching with a renumbered stock, and with the same heavy stamping and dark impression on the stock numbers.
Like the one I posted, that one is another Stutzenkarabiner still in 8X50R, all matching with a renumbered stock, and with the same heavy stamping and dark impression on the stock numbers.