R.W. Parker
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WALTHER Products- Walther Master Manufacture Pistols
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Inherited Walther rifle
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Thank you for your time and information. I appreciate it.
Thank you so much for your time and information. I'm an old gal, LOL, and can you tell me what is meant by, "if the bore is bright and what kind of mechanical issues" I should look for.This reproduction of the factory booklet will probably give you more solid information about the Walther Modell I and Modell II Semi-Automatic Carbines than anything you're likely to find on the web:
Walther 1936 Carbine Model 1 & 2 Catalog/Manual - Cornell Publications
Walther Carbine Model 1 & 2 1936 Catalog/Manual 16 pages, about 5" x 8", glossy soft-cover in full color. New re-print restored and digitally enhanced. This copy is printed on heavy, super-white paper. Fully Illustrated. The original catalog looked as if it had been through a war (probably was)...cornellpubs.com
Your rifle is missing its detachable magazine. They can be difficult to find and rather pricey, so that will negatively affect the value.. On the other hand, that brass plaque will definitely add some value. If the bore is bright and there are no mechanical issues, I'd think $700 would be a fair asking price. If the original magazine happened to turn up, you could probably add about $200-$300 to that.
Hello. Thank you so much for your time and the great information. I will probably buy the magazine, I just visited the site. I'm getting wonderful information and I hope for more information on the plaque on the rifle. My very best regards to all who are helping me.WALTHER Products- Walther Master Manufacture Pistols
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Thank you so much for your time and valuable information, I so appreciate it. I am learning so much and I have had this rifle for many years. My uncle acquired it in the 1940s and he said since I was the only family member interested in it he left it to me. My mom and dad were hunters for rabbits and dear when I was a little girl, we had beagles, so I grew up knowing how to hunt nature the proper way and I have my moms Model 42 Winchester .410ga. shotgun that I treasure. Thanks to everyone trying to help me.This reproduction of the factory booklet will probably give you more solid information about the Walther Modell I and Modell II Semi-Automatic Carbines than anything you're likely to find on the web:
Walther 1936 Carbine Model 1 & 2 Catalog/Manual - Cornell Publications
Walther Carbine Model 1 & 2 1936 Catalog/Manual 16 pages, about 5" x 8", glossy soft-cover in full color. New re-print restored and digitally enhanced. This copy is printed on heavy, super-white paper. Fully Illustrated. The original catalog looked as if it had been through a war (probably was)...
Your rifle is missing its detachable magazine. They can be difficult to find and rather pricey, so that will negatively affect the value.. On the other hand, that brass plaque will definitely add some value. If the bore is bright and there are no mechanical issues, I'd think $700 would be a fair asking price. If the original magazine happened to turn up, you could probably add about $200-$300 to that.
Sexton
Member
What Mr. Parker means is if the inside of the barrel is not rusty or pitted and the rifling (those twisted grooves you'll see inside) is well defined. A good barrel will look bright and shiny inside when cleaned up. Mechanical issues could be any irregularity that affects proper functioning of the rifle, including missing parts.
grimlin13
Senior Member
No, it was not used to guard or police the forestry region. It was most likely hung on a wall, maybe taken down on occasion to target shoot or for small game. Germany was getting ready for war. It`s February 1939, in 7 months (Sept. 1st), Germany invades Poland. You can bet that these "Ski Meets" were more than just a few forestry guys getting together for fun, games, and drinking. All aspects of German life were being controlled. Sports/fitness was a big deal. Germany covertly trained their "citizens" in warfare. Seems like a "Ski Meet" in the forest region of Thuringia, where there are mountains, would be a good place to train some mountain troops.
The Oberhof is still a winter resort. More than half of Germany`s 136 Winter Olympic gold medals have been won by Thuringians
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Gerst
Senior Member
I still have friends and family in that part of Germany. Even in the DDR days, shooting clubs were very popular. I suspect that the target rifle was a presentation award given at the so-called ski meeting. Thueringen has a number of ski resorts and the forestry guys probably included a lot of skiers.
The Thueringer Forest is enormous. Forester have to be good cross-country skiers in order to patrol it in winter.
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Thank you so much for this valuable information and your time to tell that story. The more I learn about it the more I think perhaps I should not sell it but put it in a museum to tell another story of the cruelty of WWII against the good German people. I'm beginning to see this gun in a different way. I always liked it as I liked guns. My brother was an MP in the US army during the Viet Nam war, my dad's brothers all served in WWII, my grandfathers & great uncles in WWI and so on. I was taught the horrors of the Germans against the Jewish people. My family has German roots some of them coming over to America in the early 1900s. I have always been taught that my freedom is not free, bravery and sacrifice comes before freedom. I was also taught to forgive is Devine. What shall I do with this gun?
grimlin13
Senior Member
If it was my rifle and with the family history tied to it, I would keep it. Pass it to a younger family member that appreciates what it is and will continue to be a caretaker of the rifle. If you do not want to do that or it isn`t possible, I would sell it to a collector. This forum is a good place to sell rifles like that. You can rest assured that you would get what it is worth and not jerked around. A buyer here would take care of it. Preserve the history of it.
Be aware that if given to a museum, it may not even be displayed. It could be put in a box, in some storeroom and forgotten. Not every museum preserves the items it has correctly. Not to say donating to a museum is a bad thing. There is just no guarantee as to what will be done with donations.
In the end, it is your rifle to with as you wish.
I found this for you to read. If you go down to the Competitions during the National Socialists era, you will see there was a Wehrmacht ski championship held February 3rd to 5th, 1939 at Oberhof. It has the names of the two winners. Josef Bradl won the ski jump, and Gustav Berauer became the Nordic combined Greater German Champion.
en.wikipedia.org
Also, Gustav Berauer was a senior NCO in the Gebirgsjager corps (Mountain troops) and Josef Bradl was a Strumbannfuhrer in the SA.
Be aware that if given to a museum, it may not even be displayed. It could be put in a box, in some storeroom and forgotten. Not every museum preserves the items it has correctly. Not to say donating to a museum is a bad thing. There is just no guarantee as to what will be done with donations.
In the end, it is your rifle to with as you wish.
I found this for you to read. If you go down to the Competitions during the National Socialists era, you will see there was a Wehrmacht ski championship held February 3rd to 5th, 1939 at Oberhof. It has the names of the two winners. Josef Bradl won the ski jump, and Gustav Berauer became the Nordic combined Greater German Champion.
Thuringia ski jump - Wikipedia
Also, Gustav Berauer was a senior NCO in the Gebirgsjager corps (Mountain troops) and Josef Bradl was a Strumbannfuhrer in the SA.
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Thank you so much. I visited the site and read all of it, it was so interesting and sad and good at the same time. I am also going to try to get a good picture of the bore in my gun so everyone can see it. I like your advice about the museum and it is too important to be locked away. The little medal tag on the gun was what always kept me curious about it and he would say well maybe someday you can find something out about it. It needs to go to someone else who will appreciate it like I have. I'm the last of my immediate family, so no one to leave it to, I saved it for my son but he died last year. I'll try to get the picture of the bore up in a few days. Maybe someone will be interested in it to buy it. Thanks to everyone.If it was my rifle and with the family history tied to it, I would keep it. Pass it to a younger family member that appreciates what it is and will continue to be a caretaker of the rifle. If you do not want to do that or it isn`t possible, I would sell it to a collector. This forum is a good place to sell rifles like that. You can rest assured that you would get what it is worth and not jerked around. A buyer here would take care of it. Preserve the history of it.
Be aware that if given to a museum, it may not even be displayed. It could be put in a box, in some storeroom and forgotten. Not every museum preserves the items it has correctly. Not to say donating to a museum is a bad thing. There is just no guarantee as to what will be done with donations.
In the end, it is your rifle to with as you wish.
I found this for you to read. If you go down to the Competitions during the National Socialists era, you will see there was a Wehrmacht ski championship held February 3rd to 5th, 1939 at Oberhof. It has the names of the two winners. Josef Bradl won the ski jump, and Gustav Berauer became the Nordic combined Greater German Champion.
Thuringia ski jump - Wikipedia
Also, Gustav Berauer was a senior NCO in the Gebirgsjager corps (Mountain troops) and Josef Bradl was a Strumbannfuhrer in the SA.
Fal Grunt
Senior Member
There are many people here, myself included who would be interested in your rifle. When your ready to sell it, let us know.
Thank you for your message. I will try to get a good picture of the bore listed soon. I still don't know what price to put on it so after I try to see the bore and maybe get the magazine for it someone will help me price it. thanks to all and keep watching as I would love to get it to someone who will appreciate it and take care of it.