Is the whole matching serial number thing overblown?

This is a great thread with many good perspectives. I personally don’t pursue numbers matching guns all that much, but I certainly appreciate that many original examples exist and are preserved.

Whenever I’m considering a K98k, I always check out the reference thread here. Even if your buying a refurb of some sort, it always good to compare with an original.

Oh, on another note - while I didn’t buy one, I’d be interested to see some more of the Ethiopian rifles posted here. Thanks
 
This is a great thread with many good perspectives. I personally don’t pursue numbers matching guns all that much, but I certainly appreciate that many original examples exist and are preserved.

Whenever I’m considering a K98k, I always check out the reference thread here. Even if your buying a refurb of some sort, it always good to compare with an original.

Oh, on another note - while I didn’t buy one, I’d be interested to see some more of the Ethiopian rifles posted here. Thanks

If you look up a little I posted my Ethiopian when referencing it a force match. Glad the general perspective is an all around appreciation. Just seems like thee original poster mistook their preference for all original history (matching) as arrogance.
 
If you look up a little I posted my Ethiopian when referencing it a force match. Glad the general perspective is an all around appreciation. Just seems like thee original poster mistook their preference for all original history (matching) as arrogance.

Exactly. A lot of people from other genres think that about Mauser guys. It usually stems from a bad experience on their end. It's not really complicated.
 
What fun would collecting German military anything be from the Imperial era through 1945 without numbers, letters, specific fonts, unit and maker marks??? lol :thumbsup:
Of the millions of Mausers, mine is "rare" because of.... (numbers, letters, stamps, etc.). Its odd to an outsider or newbie and it isn't for everyone, he'll get over it.
 
Matching is good, not matching is good too

I’m relatively new to “collecting,” but I think that my attitude towards German rifles probably reflects the history of collecting these rifles.

Before the war, few people ever heard of a Mauser, let alone collected them. When soldiers came home with their trophies, most of them probably ended up on the closet. When surplus riflles began being sold over here for twenty bucks, people began buying them, some to collect, many to be “sporterized.” Few people lnew anything about them.

As the collecting hobby grew people took the time to study the weapons and do research. They found out the history of Mauser, all the factories, the record-keeping, the stamps, the numbers. Over time matching numbers became important because few rifles probably had them. When capture weapons and other-country surplus guns hit the market they drove prices down and the number of mixmasters up, so matching guns got more and more valuable because they were rare.

With the internet, collecting, buying and selling increased dramatically, driving prices up and attracting crooks. That’s where we are now. Also, people want instant gratification now so they don't have time to do the homework. They have extra money which they throw at the elusive “all matching” gun. Sellers push this craze for the money they can make.

What began as a fun hobby has become an obsession to some, a source of income for many, and a source of grief and disappointment to others.

I didn’t even know my first “sporter” had serial numbers until I took it apart. I didn’t really care. When I bought my first 98k fifty years later, appearance and condition became import. I have six rifles now, none are all matching. I don’t care. It is a hobby to me, if even that, not an obsession. Obsession and fun do not go together.
 
If the OP is offended by the preference for matching numbers by K98 collectors, I hope he never discovers Lugers.
 
Well let's take it out of the collectible firearms arena and move to say muscle cars. A matching number 1967 Big block Vette will bring 10's of thousands more than a non matching one. On top of that, if the matching numbers one is all original and unrestored, then add more $$. Hell, if it has the wrong date code on the carb it's a $1K drop in price. Matching numbers matter - for value, for collectability, not for the fun of shooting. But, they do matter.
 
Well let's take it out of the collectible firearms arena and move to say muscle cars. A matching number 1967 Big block Vette will bring 10's of thousands more than a non matching one. On top of that, if the matching numbers one is all original and unrestored, then add more $$. Hell, if it has the wrong date code on the carb it's a $1K drop in price. Matching numbers matter - for value, for collectability, not for the fun of shooting. But, they do matter.

Your car one is even a perfect example for shooters and non shooters. You're not gonna take a perfect condition all matching car out all the time. But you get an unmatching you can actually enjoy it to the full extent. Matching and non matching both are desirable in their own right and neither is wrong.
 
Hallo,

in my opinion K98k have been repaired with parts from scrap guns in wartime. But of course you can not give an evidence, that it was happen in the war and not after the war.

A few years ago I was able to inspect a "barn find" K98k in eastern germany, mixed up with parts from 2 rifles. I think stock, rings and trigger guard from one gun, and the complete system from another. This gun shows battle damage on stock and system, so it was mixed up before ist was damaged.

Unfortunately the gun was scrapped, because the finder wasn`t willing to legalize it and the condition of the gun was to bad for passing a new proof firing.

Viele Grüße,

best regards,

Georg
 
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Hambone, that's gotta be one of the best gifs ever, as well as a fitting conclusion (hopefully!) to this thread!
 
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