K98k AX 41

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Here is one of my rifles with data. I would appreciate comments, good or bad, on your thoughts.
The stock is laminated with remaining markings mostly worn down, however both pieces have numbers inside the barrel channel matching the rifle. There is an “H” barely discernible on the lower right side of the butt. There appears to be a surface, hairline crack on the upper right wrist area that doesn’t go through the wood and is only visible through an extremely close inspection. The butt plate is cupped. There is a sight hood, unmarked cleaning rod, and a reproduction Mauser leather sling. The remaining blued finish is mostly present with age patina and the barrel has a bright, shiny bore with no pitting or corrosion. There are no markings that reflect an import.

The full serial number 3706a, the last two numbers 06, and/or the Nazi Eagle Code 280/37 are located on the:
• Receiver Top: 3706a
• Receiver Right Side: Nazi Eagle Code 280
• Barrel Left Side: 3706a and Nazi Eagle #280 right side
• Barrel Right Side Below Rear Sight: Nazi Eagle #280
• Bolt Handle: 3706a and Nazi Eagle #280 on bottom
• Extractor: 06
• Magazine: Follower 06 and Nazi Eagle #280
• Safety: 06
• Cocking Piece: 06 and Nazi Eagle #37
• Firing Pin: 3706
• Bolt Release: 06
• Butt Plate: 3706a
• Stock Upper and Lower: 3706a Matching
• Stock Exterior: No markings visible except for faint “H” denoting Army
• Stock Disc: Code #280 Not visible
• Recoil Lug Disc: Nazi Eagle #280
• Floor Plate Milled: 3706a and Nazi Eagle Code 280
• Floor Plate Base Milled: 3706a and Nazi Eagle Code 280
• Trigger Guard Large Screws: 06
• Rear Sight Ladder: 06
• Rear Sight Slide: 06
• Rear Sight Base: Nazi Eagle #280
• Upper Milled Band: 3706a and Nazi Eagle #280 on right side
• Lower Milled Band: 3706a and Nazi Eagle #280 on right side
• Bayonet Lug Mount: 06 and Nazi Eagle #280 on right side
• Front Sight Base: Nazi Eagle Code #37

There are no markings on the cleaning rod or band spring but none are listed in the reference book, “Backbone of the Wehrmacht”, by Richard D. Law.
 

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Very scarce code too find most I come across are Russian capture pictures are really mismatched put together rifles. But right now I own two really nice AX41 rifles and just last week bought a super nice AX40. Good to see another collector have one you just don't see enough of them. If you can post some pictures of the bolt group when you get time.
 
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Warrior1354 said:
Looking at your Erma made AX41 coded K98k everything looks good from what pictures you have posted and the data you have listed. No import mark even better not many collectors can say they have an all matching AX41 non import marked piece in their collection. Very scarce code too find in this condition most I come across are Russian capture pictures are really mismatched put together rifles. But right now I own two really nice AX41 rifles and just last week bought a super nice AX40. Good to see another collector have one you just don't see enough of them. If you can post some pictures of the bolt group when you get time.
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Which parts of the bolt group do you want to see? Image #3084 shows the bolt looking down.
 
Not really liking the bolt, the sleeve and safety in particular. Hard to say on the top flat... Really, if you are interested in a good examination of the rifle, you need to do good pictures of the rifle. In particular the right receiver and bolt components, - the under side of the bolt flat, the acceptance on the small components.

It would be good also if you took more pictures of the component mix, including acceptance.
 
Loewe said:
Not really liking the bolt, the sleeve and safety in particular. Hard to say on the top flat... Really, if you are interested in a good examination of the rifle, you need to do good pictures of the rifle. In particular the right receiver and bolt components, - the under side of the bolt flat, the acceptance on the small components.

It would be good also if you took more pictures of the component mix, including acceptance.
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I think the bolt flat is good, The safety looks boinked to me and I don't like the shroud either. Its a shame that the stock was sanded so heavily.
 
Couldn't really say much on the bolt group thought maybe lighting had something too do with it. But Loewe and Mauser 202 are right the safety number doesn't look quite right. Try too get some good underside pictures of the bolt too.

And too help what too look for here's some pictures of my AX41 d block too help compare pictures with your piece.


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The sleeve looks scrubbed and has ghost numbers. The safety numbers seems round bottomed (pantograph?). The cocking piece has sharp internal and external edges that may be indicative of scrubbing, and also looks to have a e/37 inspection.
 
Ax 41

Thanks for all the input guys! It’s now a moot point, however, since someone from another site made me an offer to buy I couldn’t refuse. Won’t say how much but it was considerably north of 2 K. I hadn’t planned on selling the rifle but the buyer said this was the nicest AX 41 he had seen in a while. Thanks again!
 
Wait a minute I'm a little bit confused about this coltgrabber. We just named off some problems with your bolt group that possibly these parts may be scrubbed with maybe wrong inspection stamps too. But your still selling it too someone? At least post some pictures more of your bolt group and better ones too find out. And too be 100% sure that this bolt group is either wrong or right. This is how rifles with problems keep getting passed around.
 
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Wait a minute I'm a little bit confused about this coltgrabber. We just named off some problems with your bolt group that possibly these parts may be scrubbed with maybe wrong inspection stamps too. But your still selling it too someone? At least post some pictures more of your bolt group and better ones too find out. And too be 100% sure that this bolt group is either wrong or right. This is how rifles with problems keep getting passed around.
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First off, a couple of comments from folks off this forum doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with the bolt on this rifle. I appreciate the input but a few negative remarks based upon a few photos doesn't automatically put my rifle into a suspect category. I also resent the insinuation from you that I would knowingly sell a rifle with "problems". At 75 this isn't my first rodeo nor does anyone being a member of this forum automatically make them an "expert"! This isn't the buyers first rodeo either and from our conversations probably knows at least as much as anyone else on this forum about K98k Mousers. He disagreed with the comments on this thread and is ecstatic about being able to own it. That's all that's necessary! The issue is closed as far as I'm concerned.
 
Wow was not expecting that comment from you. All I asked was too show more pictures of the bolt group too show the rifle was true and not messed with in some way. And I have too say alot of the members here are some of the most knowledgeable in the world on K98k rifles. After all some members here and our founders of this forum help write the new series of books on them. But hey your happy with the sale and your buyer is so what do I know. I'm young and your in 70s I was most likely in diapers when you bought this rifle or wasn't even born yet.
 
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The back end of the bolt looks renumbered to me. The bolt handle itself looks OK to me. The safety, cocking piece, and gas shield on bolt have numbers that look different and you have the wrong inspection WaA I think. Doesn't look original. Why post your rifle if you do not want opinions? I would not want to pay over 2k for it.
 
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The stock is sanded and the back of the bolt is bad, the bolt body could be good, impossible to say with these pictures.

As for this little temper-tantrum, you are entitled to sell it to anyone that will buy it, if he is an informed fool, then your conscience is clear (and if he is paying $2k for this rifle, he is a imbecile) - as to your age, that is irrelevant, as most here are not "youngsters" and age is no indicator of honesty or integrity. Congress and all 50 state legislatures of full of old crooks.

coltgrabber said:
First off, a couple of comments from folks off this forum doesn't mean that there is anything wrong with the bolt on this rifle. I appreciate the input but a few negative remarks based upon a few photos doesn't automatically put my rifle into a suspect category. I also resent the insinuation from you that I would knowingly sell a rifle with "problems". At 75 this isn't my first rodeo nor does anyone being a member of this forum automatically make them an "expert"! This isn't the buyers first rodeo either and from our conversations probably knows at least as much as anyone else on this forum about K98k Mousers. He disagreed with the comments on this thread and is ecstatic about being able to own it. That's all that's necessary! The issue is closed as far as I'm concerned.
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Thats what I found was funny Loewe. I asked too show more pictures and never said weather his rifle was real or not real. Just wanted a honest answer from him. Hell it could be the lighting or the camera angle showing the numbers not 100% right. The reply I got back was basically how dare I question him on his rifle. My buyer is happy with the sale and he's a expert too and he knows whats he's buying. So we don't know what were talking about here. Felt like I was getting an answer back from a used car salesmen. My concerned if this rifle is not right. I don't want it being passed off on somebody else later on. But with the internet I believe we will be seeing this rifle again in the future.
 
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Wow was not expecting that comment from you. All I asked was too show more pictures of the bolt group too show the rifle was true and not messed with in some way. And I have too say alot of the members here are some of the most knowledgeable in the world on K98k rifles. After all some members here and our founders of this forum help write the new series of books on them. But hey your happy with the sale and your buyer is so what do I know. I'm young and your in 70s I was most likely in diapers when you bought this rifle or wasn't even born yet.
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Exactly Jordan. We were in diapers. So what do we know?
 
This whole thread needs to have pictures saved and locked down for posterity.

The bolt parts with the exception of the bolt body itself are fraudulent and renumbered, and likely even wrong code. And no it was NOT done by a waffenmeister either - it was done by someone recently within the last 20 years.

The stock is sanded and has issues. Bolt already discussed.

$2000... someone has more money than sense and is VERY uninformed. $2000 for an ax 41 is silly. It's a $900 rifle tops given the issues.
 
Can't agree more. Got what he wanted too hear and most likely will never comment on his rifle again. I asked him a simple request by posting more pictures about the bolt. And he already was sending back a negative message too me. Most would say no problem bud want too make sure the rifle is right before selling it to someone. I guess that don't matter its 100% right in his eyes and this buyer I guess doesn't care about paying 2k for one with problems. Just hope he doesn't cry later that he got screwed. And I think this picture basically sums this issue up. :biggrin1:


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