Kriegsmarine riffle information

[RyanE]

The barrel was replaced by a Kreigsmarine depot, which is uncommon. Based on the style of eagle used on the barrel, it might have been MAZa Kiel, but no one knows for sure. There are two styles of these firing proof stamps found on KM repairs and builds, but no knows if these were changed at some point for all depots or if they are unique to the depot.

 

[Jdt]

The barrel was replaced by a Kreigsmarine depot, which is uncommon. Based on the style of eagle used on the barrel, it might have been MAZa Kiel, but no one knows for sure. There are two styles of these firing proof stamps found on KM repairs and builds, but no knows if these were changed at some point for all depots or if they are unique to the depot.

Very interesting! This stamp reminds me of a bolt m/m 1936 dated S/42 that liberty tree collectors had. Was H marked stock if I recall right. Sold several months back but I'll see If I can find a imagine of the barrel proof, I do remember that the wrist was marked with a rather faint "LK3" which I thought was unique cause any LK marked rifles I've seen are LK5.

 

[Jdt]

@RyanE not sure if the link will work since it's sold but the proof isn't a match so not a kriegsmarine rebarrel. Figured ya wanna see it still anyway since it's abit interesting.

Pre-War Mauser (s/42) K98k - 1936 mfg

For sale is a K98k made prior to WW2 in 1936. The rifle's bluing has turned to mostly patina with some spots worn to a greyish finish. The stock is worn and has been sanded in the past but no cracks or breaks.

legacy-collectibles.com

 

[RyanE]

@RyanE not sure if the link will work since it's sold but the proof isn't a match so not a kriegsmarine rebarrel. Figured ya wanna see it still anyway since it's abit interesting.

Pre-War Mauser (s/42) K98k - 1936 mfg

For sale is a K98k made prior to WW2 in 1936. The rifle's bluing has turned to mostly patina with some spots worn to a greyish finish. The stock is worn and has been sanded in the past but no cracks or breaks.

legacy-collectibles.com

That is an early HZa Kassel rework, possibly pre-war. Kassel used that "Simson" style fireproof in the 1930s.

 

[stuckus]

Regarding the comment about the rifle being on a boat: I believe the German Navy was responsible for coastal defenses/big guns along the coast…kind of like the Luftwaffe was responsible for the anti-air/flak guns. Late in the war some Luftwaffe units were fighting like infantry, I seem to recall reading somewhere. I wouldn’t be surprised if some navy units also fought on the continent.

 

[Jdt]

That is an early HZa Kassel rework, possibly pre-war. Kassel used that "Simson" style fireproof in the 1930s.

Neat!

 

[Emile]

when ya get the chance pull the stock off again (without messing up the screw heads) and take pictures of the steel lot code on the barrel and there should be a large 2 digit date with some small waffenampt eagles on the barrel telling us who supplied the depot spare barrel. Take pictures of all those markings and post'em in your thread.

Here you are.
First pic I see a 76, a 23 and a 5.
2nd pic : WaA623
3rd pic :123 40 B0

 

[Emile]

Very interesting! This stamp reminds me of a bolt m/m 1936 dated S/42 that liberty tree collectors had. Was H marked stock if I recall right. Sold several months back but I'll see If I can find a imagine of the barrel proof, I do remember that the wrist was marked with a rather faint "LK3" which I thought was unique cause any LK marked rifles I've seen are LK5.

There is a H on the butt of my stock as well, indeed

Doesn't "H" mean Heer, for Army? why not M for Kriegsmarine?

 

[Jdt]

Regarding the comment about the rifle being on a boat: I believe the German Navy was responsible for coastal defenses/big guns along the coast…kind of like the Luftwaffe was responsible for the anti-air/flak guns. Late in the war some Luftwaffe units were fighting like infantry, I seem to recall reading somewhere. I wouldn’t be surprised if some navy units also fought on the continent.

I recall seeing a metal detecting video that came out of France. The person found a battlefield cleanup crew pile of dog tags that had German Heer, Luftwaffe, Kriegsmarine and SS unit identification stamped into the dogs tags. The clean up crew would have a set of dog tags made for German dead, one tag for the body copying the German information and then one they tossed.

 

[Jdt]

There is a H on the butt of my stock as well, indeed

Doesn't "H" mean Heer, for Army? why not M for Kriegsmarine?

In that case your rifle started out from the factory ment to be delivered to the Army. However either at the factory or possibly at a later date, the rifle ended up in the hands of the Kriegsmarine. H marked rifles with Kriegsmarine markings are known as Kriegsmarine diverted rifles to us in the collecting community.

 

[Jdt]

Here you are.
First pic I see a 76, a 23 and a 5.
2nd pic : WaA623
3rd pic :123 40 B0

The Depot spare was provided by SDP and made in 1940 (Steyr Diamler Puch, i know I spelt most of that wrong but the gist is Steyr supplied that barrel)

 

[RyanE]

There is a H on the butt of my stock as well, indeed

Doesn't "H" mean Heer, for Army? why not M for Kriegsmarine?

The 'M' stamp wasn't in use for all that long, 1939 until 1941, and not every factory did so. Plenty of H marked guns were delivered to the Kreigsmarine even during that time frame. Nothing unusual about it.

 

[Emile]

Thank you very much for your replies