Movie GOLDFINGER and K98s
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Guillaume d'Orange
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And plenty of other stuff:
Sometimes the movie prop guys get it close, and sometimes you just have to laugh. There was a series on the World Wars on one of the cable channels a few years ago. One scene showed a WW1 German soldier with a stainless Rossi lever action rifle! I guess the prop guy only heard the word "western" in western front.
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Blackpowderresearcher
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In the "historical documentary" Hogan's Heroes Sgt. Schultz may sometimes be seen with a Krag rifle.
It would be more plausible if it had been a Norwegian Krag since you would expect a POW camp guard to likely have a Beutewaffen, but a US Krag does seem unlikely. It was a comedy though!
Blackpowderresearcher
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As a child a lot of things went over my head in that historical documentary.
1) Germans regularly separated officers from non-coms an privates and each had their own camp. As a colonel, Hogan would not be mixed in with the NCOs.
2) Germans segregated prisoners by nationalities (no Newkirk or LeBeau). However, there was a yank in the RAF who because he was in the RAF was housed with other RAF officers.
3) Hogan could not just walk across the yard and into the Kommandant's office. That would be outside the prisoner compound.
4) Way too much food. Prisoners weren't well fed and unless they bartered with the guards, could not get eggs to make crepe suzette.
5) There should be two rows of wire with a dead line before the first wire. We had the same dead-line practice during the American Civil War but it was marked by a very low fence made of wood.
I didn't learn those things until I read accounts by captured men. If held captive by the Americans in America, the Germans had it GOOD.
John Banner who played Schultz was an Austrian Jew who served in the US Armed Forces during WW II. There's a video of him aand Kempeler singing Stille Nacht in German together.
BTW, I saw Werner Kempeler (Col. Klink) when he narrated for a performance by the San Francisco Sympthony.
1) Germans regularly separated officers from non-coms an privates and each had their own camp. As a colonel, Hogan would not be mixed in with the NCOs.
2) Germans segregated prisoners by nationalities (no Newkirk or LeBeau). However, there was a yank in the RAF who because he was in the RAF was housed with other RAF officers.
3) Hogan could not just walk across the yard and into the Kommandant's office. That would be outside the prisoner compound.
4) Way too much food. Prisoners weren't well fed and unless they bartered with the guards, could not get eggs to make crepe suzette.
5) There should be two rows of wire with a dead line before the first wire. We had the same dead-line practice during the American Civil War but it was marked by a very low fence made of wood.
I didn't learn those things until I read accounts by captured men. If held captive by the Americans in America, the Germans had it GOOD.
John Banner who played Schultz was an Austrian Jew who served in the US Armed Forces during WW II. There's a video of him aand Kempeler singing Stille Nacht in German together.
BTW, I saw Werner Kempeler (Col. Klink) when he narrated for a performance by the San Francisco Sympthony.
Muncher 1953
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I recall watching this ‘show’ when it was a 1st run, & now after the 10 o’clock news as re-runs. I’ll have to keep an eye out for the Krag……
Muncher 1953
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Werner Klemperer!
I believe the French did use 1894 winchester lever actions during world war one. Wouldn't be impossible for a german soldier to be using one he captured. Granted I think you might be correct on the one in the movie being a rossi, and is not set up like a french contract lever gun.