Need help, I'm seeing crowns in my sleep!

BillWest

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Hello everybody, I was recently given an old sporterized mauser and I'm having no luck figuring out what it was/is.
There are no markings on the receiver, or barrel. I can find various proof marks, but the most prominent mark
is a crown with three "Jewels" over top of some strange letters/shapes...not sure. Anyone have a clue on this?
I searched from one end of the web to the other and keep coming up blank : (
 

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Hello everybody, I was recently given an old sporterized mauser and I'm having no luck figuring out what it was/is.
There are no markings on the receiver, or barrel. I can find various proof marks, but the most prominent mark
is a crown with three "Jewels" over top of some strange letters/shapes...not sure. Anyone have a clue on this?
I searched from one end of the web to the other and keep coming up blank : (
It's an imperial acceptance marking. Basically just proof an inspector looked at and approved the part. It's imperial era, though leftover or recycled parts show up plenty even during WW2.

Without more pics though it's impossible to say more
 
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Can someone tell by these pics what I have here? I know I need to get a safety, so what would I look for to be sure it fits correctly.
And finding a replacement stock, would it be large ring, small ring, or ?
I've been a firearms collector since I was ten years old and was allowed to hang our family's 1851 Colt Navy (that was my Great(x?) Grandfathers
revolver in the Civil War) on my bedroom wall. The addiction just grew from there, but I must admit that I am on the far end of the spectrum when it comes to knowledge of Mausers.
 
it appears to be a custom build off a model 98 (so large ring & std length action) reusing some Imperial ers military marked parts. bolt handle is modified, barrel has been replaced or has some mods: part of the original contour removed at the rear & dovetail cut for the sport rear sight, the front sight looks like a military type but earlier than K98k, sling mount soldered/screwed to barrel. It appears that the typical spot on the barrel shoulder where the ‘7.9’ is typically marked has been ground to remove something. Have you confirmed the caliber? It might not still be 8x57 IS (= 8mm Mauser) What is the current barrel length? (close bolt, place cleaning rod down muzzle, til it stops against bolt, mark & measure) The style of the work suggests to me a post war US job, but it could be European work. The tiny stamps under the barrel & receiver may tell more. By the location of the metal disc on the butt, it isn’t a German wartime stock, more likely a South American contract rifle or other solid wood stock without a sling slot & takedown disc. The disc of this style was often unit marked.
pic 5/15: top of receiver - hard to say what’s going on there. A ‘recycled’ receiver might have its original marks ground off, but all those random peck marks? Kid got loose w/hammer & punch? Senior w/issues banging on it w/screwdriver?

The safety: It has been deliberately removed (I believe) when the rifle was made/converted to a double set trigger ‘firing system’. Stock model 98s have a fairly long heavy trigger pull, for hunting, precision shooting, a lighter pull is preferable. With 2 triggers, you pull the rear one to “set” the front one, making its pull like a single action pistol (light & short). If you were to pull the front trigger only, it still fires the rifle, but feels like the double action pull on a DA pistol, long & heavy.


I’m not familiar enough with double triggers & whether or not the sear arrangement is modified to work with it. If it is/was on this rifle, that might explain the missing safety, because it might interfere with the setting action. (as in break something, if you pulled the triggerbw/the original safety on.


BESIDE that, the safety is a fitted part, (&had sn on military rifle) & not any safety out of 20 or so will engage the cocking piece AT ALL or smoothly with the right ‘feel’. No harm in buying one, but it may have to be fitted by an experienced person.

Hope some of that helps.
 
The friend who passed in on to me, got it for doing a bit of yard work for an older gentleman, who told him it was a cigarette rifle.
I have not confirmed the caliber, my friend said it was 8mm.
I'll measure the barrel length over the weekend.
The ding spots on the receiver are a mystery, maybe it bounced around in someone trunk for a while? The stock is broken completely at the pistol grip
and held together with a couple wood screws and a drywall screw or two, I couldn't bring myself to take a picture of it.
 
The friend who passed in on to me, got it for doing a bit of yard work for an older gentleman, who told him it was a cigarette rifle.
I have not confirmed the caliber, my friend said it was 8mm.
I'll measure the barrel length over the weekend.
The ding spots on the receiver are a mystery, maybe it bounced around in someone trunk for a while? The stock is broken completely at the pistol grip
and held together with a couple wood screws and a drywall screw or two, I couldn't bring myself to take a picture of it.
the cigarette rifle makes sense w/overall appearance. Barrel length may give a hint about original rifle. Don’t shoot it in that stock, you might get hurt! Caliber can be checked by a gun smith, with a snap cap (8mm) or live round. Load as normal, but gently. If it wont chamber it could be 7.62x51, but 7.62x51 will chamber in an 8mm. 8mm might chamber in 30-06, just be aware. How’s the bore look?
 
if you mean close to the business end, that’s the muzzle, & sometimes those can be saved/improved by counter-boring down into the bore 1-2 inches, effectively cutting back the worn rifling to where it’s less worn. A gun smith would do that job. First we need to find you a stock so you can shoot it, then see how it shoots before making any other decisions about it. It may shoot well enough as is. In your place, I’d look on ebay (oh, bite my tongue!) or post a WTB here on the Trader for a cut down (sportered) stock for a model 98 that had a lower sling mount like the one you have. You don't need any other parts, & a full length military stock will interfere with the front sling mount, so cut down will be cheaper. read up on “recoil lug setback” so you don’t buy one that needs repair. (DAMHIKT….)
 
Got the measurement on the barrel, it's 24.25"
& a K98k barrel measures 23-5/8” , choose carefully or the steps in your barrel won’t match those of the stock.
I have no idea about the Siamese stock. look for one for a large ring, w/close to same barrel length.
 
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