Spandau 1915 Gew 98

MichaelWC

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Hello everyone I just wanted to share my Gewehr 98 made in 1915 at Spandau. I got it about three years ago. Everything is matching expect the butt point. The sling is a reproduction. Supposably it have battle damage by the unit disc and receiver area. I do need some help identifying the unit or regiment on the unit disc. The unit is R.J.R.212.2.K.67. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you
 

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Unit markings are not my thing, but it probably identifies the 212 Reserve Inf. Regt., which was part of the 45th RID, served in Belgium in 1915. I assume it is an authentic unit marking because of its appearance and composition, which during the war was very "individualistic" and rather chaotic compared to pre-war unit markings. Typically the known wartime unit markings are either specialized units or seem to have been done for unique situations. Some coastal defense units and in many cases elite formations seem to have applied unit markings. It is rare on G98's, most known are 98a's or bayonets. Often the unit markings are next to indecipherable, just a series of numbers that can mean anything..

Anyway, Jeff Noll, Wolfgang or a few others that specialize in unit markings could undoubtedly decipher this for you. Perhaps they will when they come for a visit. Some of our other German friends also very skilled with unit markings.

Regarding the rifle, I have this rifle recorded from a 2008 sale, on Gunbroker, didn't save the text though. The pictures were even worse than these though, so little purpose to posting them. The only thing of note was this rifle has been cleaned up considerably, it was pretty rough in 2008. No sling then either, but the clean up looks pretty respectable considering the earlier state.
 
Unit markings are not my thing, but it probably identifies the 212 Reserve Inf. Regt., which was part of the 45th RID, served in Belgium in 1915. I assume it is an authentic unit marking because of its appearance and composition, which during the war was very "individualistic" and rather chaotic compared to pre-war unit markings. Typically the known wartime unit markings are either specialized units or seem to have been done for unique situations. Some coastal defense units and in many cases elite formations seem to have applied unit markings. It is rare on G98's, most known are 98a's or bayonets. .

Loewe is right. I too would bet my money on the 212 Reserve Jnfanterie Regiment, 2. Kompanie, Weapon No. 67. Like most of the wartime unit markings this one is not stamped according to regulations but the combination R J R is somewhat common with S.71/98 bayonets. Most of them tend to copy the K for Kompanie as well. Several S.71/98 are know with unit markings from the 233 Reserve Infanterie Regiment. I will look for some pictures.


With kind regards

Vincent
 
I'm not the greatest at identifying unique discs. So that's why I asked. I believe I bought this rifle around 2014 or 2015. I bought it from Liberty Tree collectors. Unfortunately it's the only Gewehr 98 that is unit marked in my collections. Also Thank you for the information.
 
If you want too study unit markings Jeff Nolls book is the best out there. I bought one of his books at this year's SOS show. There are few still floating around out there but not many. When folks buy them they tend too hold on too them plus I believe its out of print as well.

Anyway great rifle!
 
I think the unit marking is genuine, though I will say that the stock acceptance is not typical of this rifles range (or a Spandau in general). Which is rather strange, the serial looks good, so it is probably ok, but this stock doesn't follow the known patterns.

The earlier auction showed the stock acceptance, so I know what it is, - this is the same stock, so its been this way since 2008.
 
Hello,

i managed to get some pictures from a bayonet with this kind of unit marking. RJR 233, 5K 209. I have seen other S.71/98 bayonets marked with RJR 212, RJR 233 and RJR 234 but no other rifle.
I would love to know when and how these bayonets got issued to these reserve infantry regiments. The S.71/98 was actually a artillery bayonet.

Many thanks to Jens for letting me use his pictures.

With kind regards

Vincent


Pictures from: Sammlung Jens Wiesberger
 

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