Steyr bnz 43 SS or Frankenstein ?!

[ragman77777]

Hello, Not sure what I got here exactly . Steyr bnz 43 X. RC for sure, barrel and few parts are made by Radom , miss matching numbers here and there ...and thats where my knowledge ends. Hoping yall have an Idea if this thing is Heer or SS or what i got here in general ? Franken Rifle ? Thanks in advance

Edit : cant upload my files , too large it says , any info ? thx

Receiver bnz 43 X Eagle ,, eagle on barrel ser 4112 n under ser number WaA623
Barrel bnz /1 shield a0
Sights WaA 63 97
Front end receiver WaA 77
Under receiver is a number 6 and some flower looking stamps
Handguard 8390
Upper band 844
Magazine latch WaA 685
Magazine follower WaA 211 14
Buttplate WaA 77
Stock 4112
Front end Stock 5526 h
Lower Band E/ 26
Stock has number 3 hand grip and K randomly
Magazine latch inside WaA 63
Inside trigger guard M and KS 6 stamped
Bolt Handle Eagle
Under Bolt 3 leave clover or whatever this thing is and E/623
Bolt release 77


Thanks much for any info , really appreciated Cheers

 

[Mauserguy85]

Without pics…. Not much can be said with any certainty.

 

[heavy_mech]

"eagle on barrel ser 4112 n"

If I'm reading what you wrote correctly, it's not SS and poabably Heer production... for the receiver. The rest is a total mixmaster as one would expect from an RC.

 

[ragman77777]

Barrel , Stock and Bolt are matching numbers . the rest is mix match . the bnz 1 in a shield mark on the barrel threw me off, sas well as some parts are made by radom .... . so just a Standart RC ? and i dont know how reduce my pics to upload em , sorry

 

[Honkey Tonk Devil]

and i dont know how reduce my pics to upload em , sorry

What platform are you using. (Pc, iPhone, android) ? Under "forum help" there you find some help.

 

[ragman77777]

What platform are you using. (Pc, iPhone, android) ? Under "forum help" there you find some help.

Here a few , hope they are sharp enough

 

[ragman77777]

What platform are you using. (Pc, iPhone, android) ? Under "forum help" there you find some help.

 

[hale1940]

Not an SS contract barrelled receiver. Its a standard Army production bnz. 43.

 

[Mauserguy85]

Barrel , Stock and Bolt are matching numbers . the rest is mix match . the bnz 1 in a shield mark on the barrel threw me off, sas well as some parts are made by radom .... . so just a Standart RC ? and i dont know how reduce my pics to upload em , sorry

On a RC, the only original matching numbers parts are the receiver, barrel, front sight base and rear sight sleeve. The stock is force matched on the left rear buttstock by the Soviets. The original rifle that the stock belonged to is in the barrel channel. Not to mention that it’s an early flat buttplate stock. The bolt is not matching either as it’s assembled from random k98 parts.

When we say “matching numbers” in the k98k world, it pertains to original German. RCs are total mixmasters which are then force matched on a few components in the typical Soviet refurb way (electro pencil, sometimes line outs, new number stamps on buttstock).

To answer again, yup a standard looking RC. The barreled receiver was definitely not SS contract, was most probably Heer production. How is the bore on it?

 

[BoreH093]

That dosen't look like SS.

 

[ragman77777]

On a RC, the only original matching numbers parts are the receiver, barrel, front sight base and rear sight sleeve. The stock is force matched on the left rear buttstock by the Soviets. The original rifle that the stock belonged to is in the barrel channel. Not to mention that it’s an early flat buttplate stock. The bolt is not matching either as it’s assembled from random k98 parts.

When we say “matching numbers” in the k98k world, it pertains to original German. RCs are total mixmasters which are then force matched on a few components in the typical Soviet refurb way (electro pencil, sometimes line outs, new number stamps on buttstock).

To answer again, yup a standard looking RC. The barreled receiver was definitely not SS contract, was most probably Heer production. How is the bore on it?

Thanks for all the info . Bore is pretty good

 

[ragman77777]

On a RC, the only original matching numbers parts are the receiver, barrel, front sight base and rear sight sleeve. The stock is force matched on the left rear buttstock by the Soviets. The original rifle that the stock belonged to is in the barrel channel. Not to mention that it’s an early flat buttplate stock. The bolt is not matching either as it’s assembled from random k98 parts.

When we say “matching numbers” in the k98k world, it pertains to original German. RCs are total mixmasters which are then force matched on a few components in the typical Soviet refurb way (electro pencil, sometimes line outs, new number stamps on buttstock).

To answer again, yup a standard looking RC. The barreled receiver was definitely not SS contract, was most probably Heer production. How is the bore on it?

any idea about the current value in the U.S. ?

 

[Jdt]

any idea about the current value in the U.S. ?

Been told the low end of RC rifles is 700. I sold one I had to a local guy looking for a K98K for 7 or 800, was a i block bnz 4 army contract with a mint bore.

 

[Mauserguy85]

Like I recently told a fellow newer member. Bore condition in a RC plays a big part in value because many have intentions to shoot them. Also when they come with more scarce parts like a kriegsmodell stock…. $700-$1000 is what typical RC’s go for. Of course auction sites like gunbroker, local gun shops, gunshows… prices get inflated.

 

[ragman77777]

Like I recently told a fellow newer member. Bore condition in a RC plays a big part in value because many have intentions to shoot them. Also when they come with more scarce parts like a kriegsmodell stock…. $700-$1000 is what typical RC’s go for. Of course auction sites like gunbroker, local gun shops, gunshows… prices get inflated.

Thanks, Bore is really good for 80 years old . i shot maybe 50 rnds in 20 years i own it , just looked at gunbroker and most of them things go 1200-1500 . 2 auctions start with 700 no reserve . I paid 299 so i cant complain