Still needing help with markings and value

[TheKels]

Decided to make a new thread due to posting the photos of the rifle late. I think the rifles stock has been chopped or possibly swapped but it looks somewhat original… it’s also been drilled for a scope mount… any advice on markings and price would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Muncher 1953]

your rifle was made into a hunting rifle, the original stock cut short, the bolt takedown device removed from the butt & the butt thinned, both receiver ring & rear bridge drilled & tapped for a civilian type scope mount, now removed. the bolt sn doesn’t match the receiver sn, which it should, so if all the bolt #s match each other, then the bolt matches itself, but not the rifle. when it left the factory, this rifle’s bolt & bolt parts (firing pin as well) had the same 4 digits (or last two) on each numbered part.

IF the bore is in decent shape, its worth about the same as any new bolt action rifle at a retail store, say $300. (sorry) It’s a good example of what was done many times since WW2 its been ‘sporterized’ & that removes any collector value. at least the barrel wasn’t cut down, or rear sight sleeve, messed with.
as @Winchester Cowboy posted above, the barreled action would make a starting point for a “high turret” sniper clone, as the oem style bases completely cover the modern scope base holes. should you decide to go that route, post here for gunsmith recommendations.

I could write more about what it was when shipped, but the photos tell the story. nice mix of blued & phosphated parts.
all parts matching, good condition, not messed with $2000-$3500+
stock wood not matching the all matching metal -50% (subject to exceptions)
bolt not matching a matching stock & action -30% (also subject to exceptions)
russian captures where only barrel & receiver match $600-$1200 depending on what it looks like
rifles made from parts but look like a military K98k $600-$1500 depending on same

 

[bcd8238]

Looks like BYF 44. Mauser Berlin made in 1944.

 

[Muncher 1953]

Looks like BYF 44. Mauser Berlin made in 1944.

beg to differ, byf would be Mauser Oberndorf, considerably south & west of Mauser Borsigwalde (Berlin)

 

[Muncher 1953]

admittedly, this can be confusing. shown below are ‘ar’ marked rifles (Mauser Belin/Borsigwalde) rifles but finished at Mauser Oberndorf, as indicated by the e/135 top final & stock acceptance markings.

Dual ar 44 i & n block

Two all matching rifles in very good condition. It is interesting to compare the many differences in these rifles, especially considering they were not produced that far apart in time. The S/42 sight base is on the "n" block. It is also interesting that both stocks are almost identical except...

www.k98kforum.com

note that there’s nothing in the thread about my 1st 2 sentences above. knowledge has evolved & sometimes I’m wrong!

as it became apparent that bolt action rifles weren’t “enough” in battle against full autos, production at some satellite factories was switched to other type of weapons, with parts being shipped to places where the K98k was still in full production, as in the example above. while Gustloff was setting up at Buchenwald KL, some bcd coded receivers were sent to Sauer to be completed, & there are other examples of plants digging out cosmetic & other rejects to send off to be ‘saved’ at other factories as a result of bombings & other supply disruptions. often it is the inspection/acceptance stamps that tell the story.

in the case of @TheKels rifle, the trigger guard was made at Orberndorf, & assembled into a rifle there as well. we often see e/135 marked TGs on dot rifles but only 1 e/135, indicating who supplied the part to Brunn 1, aka ‘dot’.

 

[Mauserfan117]

That's a shame. Might be a good candidate for a high turret clone though.

 

[Muncher 1953]

I have to admit that if I’d seen that at my LGS & the price was low enough, it might have followed me home. I have enough parts to make it whole & I need optics anyway.